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  1. #71
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Progressive liberal or a classic liberal? Do you vote for candidates that want to limit or remove your 2A rights? How about those that believe in taxing the poor for the 'right' to own a firearm (Purchase permit, etc.)?

    I won't speak for everyone here, but over the last 30 years of elections I've become close to a single issue voter. If you don't put the 2A near the top of your requirements for your elected officials, you may have a hard time here!
    Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

  2. #72
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    I'm still trying to figure out what problem the OP is trying to solve by having purchasers fill out a questionnaire and get a pamphlet of the laws.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

  3. #73
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    If you're pro second amendment, but you think the government should impose arbitrary conditions before allowing firearm purchases, and you're pro second amendment but maybe you'd prefer people not be allowed to have the extra dangerous super scary ones, are you really pro second amendment?

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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what problem the OP is trying to solve by having purchasers fill out a questionnaire and get a pamphlet of the laws.
    He just knows he can make things better, he's had the special all his life.

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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    If you're pro second amendment, but you think the government should impose arbitrary conditions before allowing firearm purchases, and you're pro second amendment but maybe you'd prefer people not be allowed to have the extra dangerous super scary ones, are you really pro second amendment?
    Its like fighting for women by legalizing mutilation of female sex organs to curry favor of terroist zealots because they are opposite of Jesus.

  6. #76
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Just go back to how the founders intended and limit it to land owners over 25 years old.
    amen.

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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    Im all 1000% for the test to vote.
    There already is a test to vote:

    Q: Are you a citizen?

    A: Yes. You get to vote.

    A: No. You don't.

  8. #78
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris Badinov View Post
    There already is a test to vote:

    Q: Are you a citizen?

    A: Yes. You get to vote.

    A: No. You don't.
    Are you sure about that?
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  9. #79
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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    "I'm pro second amendment, but I believe there needs to be a test to exercise my rights."

    Read it over and over again until the light bulb comes on.

    Read it until your eyes bleed if necessary.
    That is not what I said. I clarified that my thoughts is that we should be educated on our laws. I didn't say that someone wouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

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    Default Re: LIberal Gun Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by jakebrake View Post
    Stickler, if I may. To be pro second amendment, is to be "pro freedom". To be "liberal" (at least in it's current incarnation), is to be "anti-freedom". it's to believe Your government can run Your life better than You can. Never the twain shall meet.

    Consequently, Your comments would raise a cloud of suspicion over Your motives.

    There is another "liberal" that regularly posts here. "Democrat gun owner". He is "liberal". inasmuch as he admits to being a Democrat....past that' "liberals" that frequented this forum have been seminar trollers that violated terms of service by degrading into name calling when their arguments lost.

    If You are in fact a "liberal", You will become a pariah with other "liberals", as You are now everything that they hate.
    It is ok that you disagree. To me, government (in the way it "should" be run) is fire departments, police departments, etc. It should be a collective agreement on kicking in for the good of the community. The military is part of the government. I think protecting business from poisoning the water is a government job.

    But I get it. And I'll listen to what you guys say.

    And I agree with a lot of what you are saying. You can't legislate ideas. The "wars on (insert whatever here) are always a haox. I wonder what we agree on?

    Regardless.. I really came to this forum to learn more about where to shop, how to become a better shot, how to know how to best know the law if I need to protect myself.

    You guys will either let me stay and talk about those things.. or you won't.

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