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    Default How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

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    The United States is quickly turning "cashless," buying most things from automobiles to hamburgers via bank loans and credit cards.

    Americans carry more than a trillion dollars on such "debt cards."

    Banks for the moment still tolerate relatively small amounts of cash and cash-backed debit card transactions, but they would prefer to move solely to "cashlessness" – in which more and more of what we need is not earned or saved, but borrowed on credit for high interest.

    Government is even happier with the fast arriving cashless society.

    Cash can be hidden, despite your bank being required to spy on you and report to the IRS any "unusual" financial activity. Government wants every transaction you make to be taxable, trackable, hackable, blockable, and used to empower Big Brother.

    Cashlessness in surprising ways gives vast power to government.

    Days ago, for example, liberal Democrat and New York State comptroller Thomas J. DiNapoli, who controls where the state invests its $209.1-billion pension fund, sent out a letter.

    It went to institutions that control our credit cards – Visa, MasterCard, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, American Express, Discover Financial Services, and others.

    DiNapoli's message was about as subtle as a guy wearing a pinstripe suit, black shirt, and white tie saying: "You gotta nice place here. Too bad if anything happened to it. But maybe I can provide you some protection."

    DiNapoli suggested that these companies should consider whether gun transactions should be classified with restricted high-risk purchases like pornography, illicit drugs, and crypto-currencies.

    "If gun violence continues unabated in society," he wrote, "public outcry ... may grow and create significant financial risk for the company."

    DiNapoli suggested that these companies look into implementing ways to block credit card purchases of firearms, ammunition, and gun accessories.

    The implied threat was clear: stop extending credit to gun- and ammo-buyers, or risk having New York State investment money taken away from your bank or credit company because the left wants to ban guns.

    The federal government has already tried such intimidation, as Craig R. Smith and I explained in our 2014 book Don't Bank On It!

    The Unsafe World of 21st Century Banking.

    President Barack Obama implemented "Operation Choke Point," which threatened regulatory problems for financial institutions that did not withhold banking and credit services from firearms and ammunition-sellers, among others.

    Such sellers were to be cut off even if they had never been found guilty of any criminal wrongdoing.

    This was the naked weaponization of regulatory power to injure or kill ideological targets.

    Consumer Research analyst Beau Brunson noted that Operation Choke Point "used reputational risk as a tool for bank coercion."

    Now so does DiNapoli. With "cashlessness," when customers have no other way to buy, such nuclear warfare can crush businesses and products.

    In August 2017, President Donald Trump stopped Operation Choke Point, but as The Hill wrote, "a program terminated unilaterally can be resumed unilaterally."

    On the day Progressive Democrats regain power, this is one of ten thousand kinds of authoritarian force they immediately will reinstall.

    Sweden had been enthusiastic about becoming the world's first "cashless" society. Now the Swedes are frightened at the power this gives government – not only their own, but Russia's should it launch an invasion by hacking, scrambling, or shutting off Sweden's computer networks as it did Ukraine's, leaving Swedes helpless, without access to either cash or credit.

    If a "cashless" government becomes authoritarian, it can not only monitor and tax everything you buy, but also ban purchases – ranging from foods it deems unhealthful to guns it deems dangerous.

    Without approval of the beast, you will be denied the ability to buy what you want and need. Purchasing or repairing once legal firearms can instantly be made impossible.

    This authoritarian step-by-step plan makes people depend on credit cards and on renting things instead of owning them. Then it outlaws cash as something only outlaws use.

    Then government can control what people are permitted to buy by regulating and intimidating banks and credit card companies. The future will eventually rediscover the Framers' constitutional money.

    We will return to the 5,000-year tradition of precious metal that needs no government or computer to give it value.

    We will learn again that gold and free are not "four-letter words," but two words that go together.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...e_gunless.html
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 ...........

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    Default Re: How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

    That is quite a scary concept but could very easily because a reality.

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    Default Re: How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

    Cashless chaos can come quick. After the 9-17 hurricane in PR, the whole island had to go cash only because there was no power for the atms and no computer system either. Problem was, no one had much cash and could not get any. You could have thousands in your bank account but if you had none in hand, you could not buy food, fuel or anything else. When the computer systems and some power came back, the relatively small amount of circulating cash had to be rationed. People lined up for blocks at the few atms that were working. When they got to the head of the line, they were limited to a $100 withdrawal. I wonder how many times the same $20 bill circulated through the same ATM in the weeks that followed? Right now you can paid and spend most of your money without ever seeing it in cash. A word to the wise-put some cash aside in case the lights go out. Food and water too. Your grocery may not get deliveries unless they can pay the delivery drivers in cash. I am sure there are other complications too.

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    Default Re: How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

    Quote Originally Posted by bill gray View Post
    Cashless chaos can come quick. After the 9-17 hurricane in PR, the whole island had to go cash only because there was no power for the atms and no computer system either. Problem was, no one had much cash and could not get any. You could have thousands in your bank account but if you had none in hand, you could not buy food, fuel or anything else. When the computer systems and some power came back, the relatively small amount of circulating cash had to be rationed. People lined up for blocks at the few atms that were working. When they got to the head of the line, they were limited to a $100 withdrawal. I wonder how many times the same $20 bill circulated through the same ATM in the weeks that followed? Right now you can paid and spend most of your money without ever seeing it in cash. A word to the wise-put some cash aside in case the lights go out. Food and water too. Your grocery may not get deliveries unless they can pay the delivery drivers in cash. I am sure there are other complications too.

    Well said! Agree 100%. Grew up in a hurricane zone, so I've experienced empty grocery stores, gas lines that lead to disappointment (They're out just as you get to the pump!). Was still living with the folks at the time, so I don't remember the cash issue too well, but I took the other lessons to heart. It always pays to keep a little extra cash socked away somewhere, along with nonperishables and water. Just get a little extra of what you normally eat and cycle through it while restocking continually.

    On to the topic at hand, I don't think we'll ever truly be a cashless society. If the government does away with paper money entirely, something will rise to fill that void. Especially once the current generation wakes up to the complete lack of privacy that credit/debit-based transactions result in.

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    Default Re: How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

    If a "cashless" government becomes authoritarian, it can not only monitor and tax everything you buy, but also ban purchases – ranging from foods it deems unhealthful to guns it deems dangerous.
    There are so many ways to mask purchases. How can a credit card company stop purchases at a sporting goods store or if the credit slip has other charges?

    I agree that we need to be worried...


    I think the biggest threats to gun ownership will be divorces and domestic upset. A jaded spouse will turn in their "criminal" partner so that they get custody of the kids, the property, whatever.
    Last edited by GeneCC; April 18th, 2018 at 10:34 PM.

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    Default Re: How a 'Cashless' America Could Become 'Gunless'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexington View Post
    Well said! Agree 100%. Grew up in a hurricane zone, so I've experienced empty grocery stores, gas lines that lead to disappointment (They're out just as you get to the pump!). Was still living with the folks at the time, so I don't remember the cash issue too well, but I took the other lessons to heart. It always pays to keep a little extra cash socked away somewhere, along with nonperishables and water. Just get a little extra of what you normally eat and cycle through it while restocking continually.

    On to the topic at hand, I don't think we'll ever truly be a cashless society. If the government does away with paper money entirely, something will rise to fill that void. Especially once the current generation wakes up to the complete lack of privacy that credit/debit-based transactions result in.
    Probably be private credit handled through a broker.

    The Russians in the 1990s declared some cash notes invalid. People had to turn them in to redeem them for new Ruble notes. A lot of Soviet people kept cash in the house, and got hammered. I guess it's the "risk diversification" thing. Keep some cash around, and physical objects and whatever.

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