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March 20th, 2018, 06:12 PM #1
Bump stock confiscation ?
I heard on a Florida news station today that they banned and will be confiscating bump stocks from owners without compensation, bump stock owners have filed a lawsuit that it's unconstitutional and they should be compensated. I'm wondering if this means they're actually willing to give them up as long as they get paid. Some but not all details below
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...320-story.html
TALLAHASSEE — Gun owners have filed a second lawsuit against the state over gun-related provisions in a new school-safety law, this time alleging that a ban on “bump stocks” is an unconstitutional taking of property.
The case, filed last week in Leon County Circuit Court, asks a judge to order “full compensation” for what the plaintiffs’ attorneys estimate are “tens of thousands, or more” Floridians who own bump stocks or similar devices.
The ban on bump stocks, which make semi-automatic weapons fire faster, was included in a law passed this month in response to the Feb. 14 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland that left 17 people dead and 17 injured.
The law also raised the minimum age to buy a gun from 18 to 21 and imposed a three-day waiting period for purchasing rifles.
Hours after Gov. Rick Scott signed the law, the National Rifle Association filed a federal lawsuit that challenges the Legislature’s decision to require people to be age 21 before purchasing rifles and other types of long guns. The lawsuit accuses the state of violating the constitutional rights of young adults between the ages of 18 and 21.
In the complaint in the bump stock case, lawyers for the plaintiffs argued that the Florida Constitution bars the state from taking private property “except for a public person and with full compensation therefore paid to each owner.”
But Sen. Bill Galvano, a Bradenton Republican who sponsored the bill, said he stands by the prohibition.
“At the end of the day, these devices turn semi-automatic rifles into machine guns. A policy decision consistent with the authority of the state has been made that this is not acceptable,” said Galvano, a lawyer slated to take over as Senate president in November.
The lawsuit also refers to a 2010 directive issued by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, that determined bump stocks are a “firearm part” and not regulated as a firearm under federal gun laws.
Marion Hammer, the National Rifle Association’s Florida lobbyist, said recently that the gun-rights organization is expected to challenge the bump-stock ban after the portion of the law dealing with the devices goes into effect on Oct. 1.Jesus is Lord !
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March 20th, 2018, 06:15 PM #2Grand Member
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Re: Bump stock confiscation ?
Do police want to get shot over a piece of plastic? Do bump stock owners want to get shot, tossed in jail over a piece of plastic? Guess we will see who blinks first.
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March 20th, 2018, 06:21 PM #3
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How will they identify bump stock owners?
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March 20th, 2018, 06:31 PM #4
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March 20th, 2018, 06:43 PM #6
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March 20th, 2018, 06:45 PM #7
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Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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March 20th, 2018, 06:59 PM #8
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March 20th, 2018, 07:08 PM #9Grand Member
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Re: Bump stock confiscation ?
Bump stocks are one thing the Florida law bans, however their definition of bump stock could ban a lot more:
1) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, the term “bump
fire stock” means a gun conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or
a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic
automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of
fire of a semiautomatic firearm to a faster rate than is
possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm
unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.
What is ironic is the state of Massachusetts not known for gun rights recently passed a a bump stock ban were they specifically defined a bump stock and those trigger cranks thus limiting it to those two devices
bump stock as “any device for a weapon that increases the rate of fire achievable with such weapon by using energy from the recoil of the weapon to generate a reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.” It defines a trigger crank as “any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon through the use of a lever or other part that is turned in a circular motion; provided, however, that ‘trigger crank’ shall not include any weapon initially designed and manufactured to fire through the use of a crank or lever.”
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March 21st, 2018, 01:10 PM #10
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