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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Registered AR-15 and AK-47 owners? Registered where? Certainly not in Florida.

    Ask permission to search; if denied, probable cause. Certainly not under the U.S. Constitution's 4th Amendment.
    What does the Constitution have to do with anything. This is for the kids.
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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    So, the shooter/s used bumpstocks at the florida event?

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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    What does the Constitution have to do with anything. This is for the kids.
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    Bump stocks are one thing the Florida law bans, however their definition of bump stock could ban a lot more:

    1) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, the term “bump
    fire stock” means a gun conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or
    a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic
    automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of
    fire of a semiautomatic firearm to a faster rate than is
    possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm
    unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.

    What is ironic is the state of Massachusetts not known for gun rights recently passed a a bump stock ban were they specifically defined a bump stock and those trigger cranks thus limiting it to those two devices

    bump stock as “any device for a weapon that increases the rate of fire achievable with such weapon by using energy from the recoil of the weapon to generate a reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.” It defines a trigger crank as “any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon through the use of a lever or other part that is turned in a circular motion; provided, however, that ‘trigger crank’ shall not include any weapon initially designed and manufactured to fire through the use of a crank or lever.”

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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    As far as I can tell, they have no intention of going after bumpstocks for confiscation. The law suggests that bumpstocks be turned in and if not turned in requires that they be destroyed or rendered inoperable by the owner. Anyone in violation commits a Felony. I believe that covers all possibilities. Except for someone that wants to commit a mass shooting. Then they will do what they want with it without concern for the consequences. It’s a symbolic sacrifice for law abiding citizens.

    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...ext/Filed/HTML

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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    I'm surprised this video is still available on YouTube, so enjoy while you can:

    "It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
    My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685

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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    Bump stocks are one thing the Florida law bans, however their definition of bump stock could ban a lot more:

    1) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, the term “bump
    fire stock” means a gun conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or
    a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic
    automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of
    fire of a semiautomatic firearm to a faster rate than is
    possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm
    unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.

    What is ironic is the state of Massachusetts not known for gun rights recently passed a a bump stock ban were they specifically defined a bump stock and those trigger cranks thus limiting it to those two devices

    bump stock as “any device for a weapon that increases the rate of fire achievable with such weapon by using energy from the recoil of the weapon to generate a reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.” It defines a trigger crank as “any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon through the use of a lever or other part that is turned in a circular motion; provided, however, that ‘trigger crank’ shall not include any weapon initially designed and manufactured to fire through the use of a crank or lever.”
    It sounds like this would leave open the argument that a bump stock does not increase the rate of fire over a simple belt loop.
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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    "a tool"????

    Fuck you, Occifer. No one touches my Dremel!
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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    OK, I don't know about the FLORIDA'S constitution, maybe it does require compensation, but that is not how I read the US constitution.

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    Default Re: Bump stock confiscation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    OK, I don't know about the FLORIDA'S constitution, maybe it does require compensation, but that is not how I read the US constitution.
    Why do you hate State's rights?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
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