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March 16th, 2018, 03:44 PM #1
America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
PUBLIC MUST RETAIN FULLY ADEQUATE ARMS
Democrat-proposed S. 2095 Is Infringement
Using media-fueled atrocities to attack America’s right to arms, and the very arms the public can bear–that’s the atrocity.
The dialog in the right-to-arms debate is being distorted by the political left with loud voices and a false argument. In this sovereign nation the public is supposed to be armed in a powerful way that balances power the nation’s government can exert. The Second Amendment is about balance of power. That balance has kept America free by retaining armed force in public hands. It’s why people struggle so hard to get here–for the liberty. Denial of serious firearms is infringement by definition.
Our arms have literally prevented the genocides and elite takeovers so many other world sites have suffered–when power accumulated in government hands, which the left is perennially attempting to achieve. The left’s use of media-promoted school massacres to achieve this evil end is a disgrace beyond words.
The hue and cry for abolishing the AR-15–America’s Rifle–the very firearm even our police prefer, shows a marked misunderstanding of where real threats lie, and how firearms affect society: the link between firearms and freedom. Gun bans don’t begin to address why children today are willing to murder classmates or strangers–that’s the real (and ignored) problem media suppresses. You don’t have to be Jewish to join JPFO, you just have to love liberty. We speak truth to power.
America's Founders Didn't Intend Weak WeaponsMikeP
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March 16th, 2018, 04:05 PM #2
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
They didn't intend for the Senate to be comprised of members directly elected by citizens and essentially duplicate the House either. Let's fix that too.
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March 16th, 2018, 05:11 PM #3
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
I actually spent some time reading through U.S. v. Heller today. Hell I can't tell if AR-15's are safe or not? I thought after reading through U.S. v. Miller we were safe. Heller pretty much shit all over Miller. I don't have a clue.
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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March 16th, 2018, 08:34 PM #4Junior Member
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March 16th, 2018, 09:06 PM #5
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
uhh... this doesn’t sound “weak” to me.
Buck and ball was a common load for muzzle-loading muskets, and was frequently used in the American Revolutionary War and into the early days of the American Civil War. The load usually consisted of a .50 to .75 caliber round lead musket ball (.69 caliber for the "Brown Bess" musket) that was combined with three to six buckshot pellets.
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March 16th, 2018, 09:24 PM #6
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March 16th, 2018, 10:41 PM #7
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
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March 16th, 2018, 10:47 PM #8
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
I started to research whether that is an actual quote because a LOT of imagery of "political" nature is faked and spread around as factual.
SNOPES sez it's fake.
We all know what their stance on anything not "left" is, but that was the first result.
Still looking...
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March 17th, 2018, 08:19 AM #9
Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
Maybe, but this isn't:
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.... [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." (Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.)
They had just defeated the largest army on earth using the same weapons as that army. No way they suddenly decided to essentially disarm themselves and future generations to make it easier for the next army to conquer them.
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March 17th, 2018, 09:14 AM #10Senior Member
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Re: America’s Founders Didn’t Intend Weak Weapons
When you delve into the history of the Revolution (not just military part, but social & economic), you find, like today, many in the cities and towns did not want to resist the British. They had a vested interest in making a living off the British who were stationed in those towns and cities. Not everyone wanted freedom from England. There were of course those who just wanted to be "left alone" and not be involved in this "freedom" thing. No different from today's society.
Those living on the frontier, in the woods, and valuing a small non-interfering government, used firearms and were responsible in how they were used. The arguments today for gun control still seem to start in the towns and cities, where they do not see the value/use of firearms the same as those "in the wilderness".
It has always been a mindset difference between those "protected" by city walls and those outside those walls, to see weapons from two very different views. Even in the "Old West" many towns had strict firearms laws. These laws have always been merely "feel good" laws to ensure townspeople felt secure. No law ever really protected anyone from truly motivated bad people or governments.
The argument over control of weapons (of all types) is as old as human beings. It will never end. Those who can't make fire will always be afraid of those who can. They are also the same people who want the firemakers to protect and keep them warm in bad times.
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