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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilky View Post
    Pretty sure this would constitute a “gun owner registry”, would it not?
    No, because not all gun owners have a LTCF. But all LTCF holders have a firearm. xD
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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    All LTCF holders may have a firearm, or may not. It's not a requirement.

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    A remedy would be to lobby the state house and senate to create and pass a law regulating the use of LTCF information. It would need to ban the automatic release of LTCF information when a driver license check is made, and limit the firearms carry license data use only for verifying if someone in public is in possession of a concealed firearm has a LTCF. Lots of luck to get the governor to sign it.

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    "I forgot my license today. Please cite me and I will produce a license valid on this date within 15 days."

    Title 75 §1501(d)(1)

    Of course, I'll have to have this printed and in the car since I don't talk to the police.
    Is your vehicle registered in the same name that appears on your DL ?

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by prsndoc View Post
    The NCIC (national criminal instant check) system is a federal database that virtually any law enforcement agency can access. Not necessarily any LEO as some agencies get access for more employees than others.

    At my federal agency only 10-15% (my personal guess) of us have access to the system.

    I thought it was the National Crime Information Center ?

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    I do not have any answers.

    Hit up AMOGA.

    I brought it here to see if anyone knew of this. How is this not a violation. Of the right to privacy?

    Does the DMV know I have an LTCF?

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Any LEO who can run your drivers license can see your LTCF.




    As soon as a drivers license is ran, the LTCF info is brought up automatically.

    What else is brought up ?

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I have to wonder why the information about Law Abiding Citizens was uploaded into the National Crime Information Center. I find it offensive that I'm considered a criminal because I'm licensed to carry a firearm.
    It actually was not uploaded into NCIC. So don’t be so offended. BTW NCIC actually includes many things not criminal.

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    What else is brought up ?
    If one is a wanted person both fugitive or reported missing and if one is a defendant or plaintiff on a active Protection from abuse.

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    Default Re: AMGOA reporting PA license scan by police informs of LTCF

    See my response to a similar thread from last year:

    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.ph...13#post3494813

    The gist is, LCTF info is a CLEAN-level transaction, NOT an NCIC transaction. Out of state agencies have no access to this information.

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