Is AR-15 for big game OK'd just a rumor?

[Bang]

(Make that semi-autos). Somebody intimated that someone in the know said so. I can't find anything beyond being considered.

[SgtRecon]

Small game only, its all here:

http://read.nxtbook.com/pgc/huntingt...dex.html#cover

[P89]

Here's what it says.

Here are some of the changes this year that hunters and trappers need to know:
Semiautomatic rifles and air guns now can be used for hunting small game and
furbearers statewide, and there is no magazine restriction for either. These arms
remain prohibited for hunting big game. Please check the small game secti on
of this digest for the caliber requirements.

[Bang]

Thanks. That's due to be re-done. This person claimed inside knowledge that it's gonna be changed for 2018-2019. Guess we'll have to wait and hope.

[Boo Vuccla]

The chances of that happening are next to zero. ZERO! With proposed legislation in the state house right now for banning.....quote; "Assault-Style Guns", I see no way in hell that the PGC would change what they already capitulated in doing last year. (Allowing them for small game only). Thanks to the mental wack-jobs out there that think the world is a video game, I just don't think we in Pennsylvania will ever see the MSR become legal to hunt big game with. We can lobby for it but the outcry from the Fudds and the anti-gun lobby did a great job dissuading the PGC to allow them for big game BEFORE the SHTF with the school shootings and the jackass in Las Vegas. I'm not condemning the outcry but its the system that is broken! Banning MSR's will do nothing in eliminating mass shootings until you stop the obviously sick from possessing/buying firearms.
The PGC knows the outcry would be massive if they allowed it right now in this current atmosphere.

[PAMedic=F|A=]

The chances of that happening are next to zero. ZERO! With proposed legislation in the state house right now for banning.....quote; "Assault-Style Guns", I see no way in hell that the PGC would change what they already capitulated in doing last year. (Allowing them for small game only). Thanks to the mental wack-jobs out there that think the world is a video game, I just don't think we in Pennsylvania will ever see the MSR become legal to hunt big game with. We can lobby for it but the outcry from the Fudds and the anti-gun lobby did a great job dissuading the PGC to allow them for big game BEFORE the SHTF with the school shootings and the jackass in Las Vegas. I'm not condemning the outcry but its the system that is broken! Banning MSR's will do nothing in eliminating mass shootings until you stop the obviously sick from possessing/buying firearms.
The PGC knows the outcry would be massive if they allowed it right now in this current atmosphere.

You need to stop blaming video games. I am willing to bet money 98% of the people on this forum under 35 are regular gamers

The problems are the lack of a father in the home.
And the use of SSRI drugs.

Perhaps not in that order. There is zero evidence that playing Call of Duty matters at all. In fact I do not personally know a person in my peer group who owns guns that doesn't play computer games. It is a generational thing, and you just happen to be a boomer.

[Remington788]

Small game only, its all here:

http://read.nxtbook.com/pgc/huntingt...dex.html#cover

Sorry, AR-15's are not allowed for small game hunting (unless it is chambered in .22 caliber or less RIMFIRE.
The exception to this in small game is groundhog. There are no caliber restrictions on them.
For furbearers, you may use semi-automatic rifles in any caliber, so you can use them for thing like coyotes, fox, racoons, skunks, possums etc.

[SgtRecon]

Sorry, AR-15's are not allowed for small game hunting (unless it is chambered in .22 caliber or less RIMFIRE.
The exception to this in small game is groundhog. There are no caliber restrictions on them.
For furbearers, you may use semi-automatic rifles in any caliber, so you can use them for thing like coyotes, fox, racoons, skunks, possums etc.

Wow, you are correct, Leave it to our beloved Game Commision to really overcomplicate things, The manual is horribly laid out, you'd think something as drastic as a change in legal firearms would be clearly stated as soon as you open the book on the first page or two, not spread out through the entire manual

I have been following this fairly closely and I am calling the "rumor" of brief use of autoloaders in the 16-17 season somewhat hard to belive

What I do think is the PGC is making this so complicated that they are banking on uninformed people using autoloaders where prohibited to give us all a "we told you so " moment and stop it all together, they do not have their hearts and minds wrapped up in this

For 20 years now we have had a lot of service people come home from the sandbox, the only firearm many of them are familiar with and some very good with is the AR-15 style rifle.(I carried one in the Iranian Hostage crisis and Beirut late 70's 80's) If the hunting heritage is to grow and prosper in Penns Woods, the PGC has to get with the 21st century and allow this to happen

[Remington788]

Wow, you are correct, Leave it to our beloved Game Commision to really overcomplicate things, The manual is horribly laid out, you'd think something as drastic as a change in legal firearms would be clearly stated as soon as you open the book on the first page or two, not spread out through the entire manual

I have been following this fairly closely and I am calling the "rumor" of brief use of autoloaders in the 16-17 season somewhat hard to belive

What I do think is the PGC is making this so complicated that they are banking on uninformed people using autoloaders where prohibited to give us all a "we told you so " moment and stop it all together, they do not have their hearts and minds wrapped up in this

For 20 years now we have had a lot of service people come home from the sandbox, the only firearm many of them are familiar with and some very good with is the AR-15 style rifle.(I carried one in the Iranian Hostage crisis and Beirut late 70's 80's) If the hunting heritage is to grow and prosper in Penns Woods, the PGC has to get with the 21st century and allow this to happen

To make things worse, they chose this year, with all those confusing changes, to stop distributing free printed digests. Online or pay $6 for a hard copy.

Personally, I won't carry my AR for deer. I just love carrying my Win-'94 and 2 weeks in December is my only chance. I can take the AR out for 'yotes any time.

[Yellowfin]

For 20 years now we have had a lot of service people come home from the sandbox, the only firearm many of them are familiar with and some very good with is the AR-15 style rifle.(I carried one in the Iranian Hostage crisis and Beirut late 70's 80's) If the hunting heritage is to grow and prosper in Penns Woods, the PGC has to get with the 21st century and allow this to happen

Quite right, and that is exactly the reason both anti hunting and anti gun people push against modern rifle usage and ownership : they want to kill off the culture, and removing the most useful, adaptable, enjoyable, and recognizable rifles from it is the means to do so. Bolt and lever rifles are boring, too specific, expensive to shoot, and basically untouched for 49-50 weeks a year--what political and cultural clout can that possibly have? Nothing compared to something you can enjoy every week of the year, swap calibers in 10 seconds, shoot for less than a quarter a round instead of $1-2, work on like a muscle car in the garage, and take apart in half to store and transport? I'm 39 and haven't played a video game in 20 years but video games (and later paintball for about 5 years) did bring to light how rifles shouldn't be boring and how only ones that aren't boring will be relevant. The last 20 years have taught us rather brutally how being relevant has to be job #1 or else nothing will endure.