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February 18th, 2018, 08:37 AM #11
Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
There is no way to make it out alive...
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February 18th, 2018, 08:46 AM #12
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February 18th, 2018, 09:13 AM #13Senior Member
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Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
I'm a Trump person all the way. If it wasn't him in the WH we would not have a 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment now, even if one of the other Republican candidates would have won. I truly do not like this comment he made, no matter what he meant to accomplish. By saying it, he is going to put us right into another rough 2nd Amendment battle.
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February 18th, 2018, 09:22 AM #14
Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
aaaand coincidentally...
Trump blames FBI for Florida school shooting and says it is 'spending too much time' trying to prove Russia-Trump ties than focusing on 'the basics'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ttack-FBI.html
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February 18th, 2018, 09:26 AM #15
Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
I hope Trump just didn't throw out a deal incentive to the Dems. I don't think he did. I agree with others that he is just pointing out yet another example of Democrat hypocrisy. When Obama had majorities in both houses his first two years in office, the Dems didn't act on passing more gun control legislation because they know it is political suicide. Al Gore lost his home state, and the Presidency largely over gun control. The Dems fear losing elections more than they fear guns.
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February 18th, 2018, 09:30 AM #16
Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
What needs to happen is they need to reinstate the AWB and then we all watch while mass shootings CONTINUE to occur.
tongue in cheek...
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February 18th, 2018, 09:42 AM #17
Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
That's the way I read it too.
He is taunting them for using serious issues as talking points instead of taking action. Basically emasculating their entire platform as political pandering that they find more valuable than problem solving.
Meanwhile their base is scratching their heads and looking towards socialists like Bernie and away from center Dems (if there is such a thing). Dems cannot win with 20% of their voters off the reservation to the left. Trump wants to win over independents by getting things done.
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February 18th, 2018, 09:50 AM #18Banned
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Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
I wonder if he will be involved with horse trading and what would be traded?
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February 18th, 2018, 10:00 AM #19Grand Member
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Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
Why make a statement like this? Joking around or not the anti-gun crowd will welcome a reinstatement of the 90s “assault weapons ban”. They will call it a first step. If there is shooting after the law is enacted they are going to say that the law didn’t go far enough.
They are also going to cite a case like Australia where they enacted a ban on semi autos and they haven’t had a mass shooting to date.
The anti-gun crowd will never admit that a gun ban or restriction didn’t work. Their excuse is going to be “it’s a first step”, “if it saved one life it’s worth it “, “we need a tougher law”. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in fantasy land. In addition it's naive to think that all the other side wants is a ban on "assault rifles" . In the 80s all they wanted was a 7 day waiting period on handguns.Last edited by eagleclaw; February 18th, 2018 at 10:08 AM.
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February 18th, 2018, 12:55 PM #20Grand Member
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Re: Trump blames Democrats for not acting on gun control earlier
In the 1970s Nelson Shields wanted a total ban on Civilian handgun ownership. They've lowered their sights a bit I guess.
The Port Arthur Mass shooting was in 1996. They had one at Monash University in 2002. Five wounded, two dead. Parliament banned the possession of some handguns.
They had a shooting in 2011, 3 dead, 3 wounded. Another mass shooting in Sydney, three dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia
We Americans had few mass school shootings before the Democrats turned school property in 1990 into Target Rich environments. If the Gun Free Schools act isn't working then a Gun Free America probably won't work too well either. Trying to get a Gun Free America would give some a license to go Social Justice Warrior on "the right" under the color of law, and maybe that is the whole point?
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