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February 18th, 2018, 10:59 AM #41
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February 18th, 2018, 11:01 AM #42
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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February 18th, 2018, 11:06 AM #43
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
I agree, most of the time it is private security on campus rather than PSP or Local Yokels. Then some schools have their own employees who wear security uniforms but they are not armed. And I was surprised when I found that PSP were a permanent fixture at MNHS. I thought something had happened when I saw his cruiser in the parking lot.
Gender confusion is a mental illness
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February 18th, 2018, 12:18 PM #44
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
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February 18th, 2018, 01:31 PM #45
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February 19th, 2018, 09:47 AM #46
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
As I already said in my reply, no one is just "giving somebody a gun", and I'm not advocating "arming teachers".
I have said repeatedly in this thread that I am talking about arming senior administrative staff, and only with proper training and certification.
As for your concerns regarding lack of administrative staff and people being out of the building, again as I already said, train 2 or 3 people to account for absences.
As for the limited staffing concerns, I think that in larger schools this is a nonissue, since they are thick with bureaucracy.
In the smaller schools, I actually think the people you mentioned make good candidates for training and arming.
Arm the top administrator, his vice principle, his secretary, or the guidance counselor, or the maintenance guy (actually a very good choice if they pass the requirements).
In smaller schools with limited bureaucracy, these ARE the people that run the school, and they are the perfect choices for armed response.
In my opinion, your first and final comments show your true feelings on this issue, which is that you don't think people should defend school children with guns.
"Training + getting kids to safety + armed response as needed" speaks volumes here.
We are already talking about worst case scenario school mass shootings, in which case "getting kids to safety" is totally inadequate, and the armed response is already needed.
"More importantly who trains with law enforcement so they don't get mistaken as the perp themselves when the police arrive within a few minutes" also speaks volumes.
This is a common argument made by people that think civilians should not be allowed to defend themselves with guns in any arena.
Obviously if we create a LEOSA type program with training and everything else, the law enforcement interaction component will be well defined.
Frankly, I get the impression that you don't believe in armed self defense as a general concept, and that you believe only police should have guns.How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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February 19th, 2018, 01:40 PM #47
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
Dude. Take a pill or something to calm down okay? Read up on what ALICE training is about.
I've had my own carry permit for over 25 years. I am hardly against people being legitimately armed.
Bringing up real concerns about this idea you have invested so much in being right on does not make me the enemy.
But I am done here. I'm pulling my comments since they rock your world too much.Last edited by Ecclectic Collector; February 19th, 2018 at 01:48 PM.
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February 19th, 2018, 02:36 PM #48
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
I'm tired of seeing dead school children on the news.
I'm tired of being blamed for the murders when I, and people like me, actively support a LEOSA type program that will effectively stop the murders.
I'm tired of people refusing to do the only thing that will stop the killings, which is to arm the schools in a safe and effective manner.
Maybe you need to care more instead of me caring less.How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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February 19th, 2018, 04:08 PM #49
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC
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February 19th, 2018, 04:55 PM #50
Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students
When I retire (in a long time), I’ll volunteer 2 days a week of my time to be an armed bystander.
"The Constitution is the guide which I will not abandon.” - George Washington
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