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    81% of Police Favor Training and Arming School Teachers and School Administrators to Protect Students from Mass Shootings.

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    The PoliceOne Firearms Corner
    with Ron Avery

    Police Gun Control Survey: Are legally-armed citizens the best solution to gun violence?

    When it comes to reducing gun violence in America, nobody else in the country has anything close to the experience-based perspective from which cops can speak

    Apr 8, 2013

    PoliceOne has scored a major scoop in police journalism by conducting a survey of more than 15,000 law enforcers regarding their thoughts on gun control in America.
    https://www.policeone.com/police-pro...utive-Summary/

    These men and women — most of whom actually work the street — have a front row seat to see gun violence in America. They put their lives at risk when they do their jobs, actually coming face-to-face with violent encounters involving firearms.

    And when it comes to finding ways to reduce gun violence and large scale shootings, most cops say a federal ban on so-called “assault weapons” isn’t the answer.

    More than 91 percent of respondents say it would either have no effect or a negative effect in reducing violent crime.
    This is an overwhelming response by those whose job it is to actually deal with this issue on the front lines.

    Instead, it is interesting to note that many respondents consider armed citizens as a potential asset in reducing the carnage from a mass murder situation; proactive choices dominate over gun and magazine restrictions and bans.

    More than 91 percent of respondents support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable.

    A full 86 percent feel that casualties would have been reduced or avoided in recent tragedies like Newtown and Aurora if a legally-armed citizen was present (casualties reduced: 80 percent; avoided altogether: 60 percent).

    For those who chose the option of casualties being avoided altogether, I took this to mean the deterrent effect of a show of force prior to an event would stop a potential predator from carrying out his murderous intent in the first place.

    What checks the sociopath from completing his act is fear. Fear of the unknown or known gun carrier who is going to punch his ticket to hell right then and right there. This has an immediate effect on reducing violent criminal activity.

    Cops on the street know the value of officer presence and being ready to go. Criminals see it too, and stay in check. I know from my own street experience how being in shape, being well prepared along with a sharp uniform appearance kept things from escalating time and time again.

    More than 81 percent of respondents were in favor of arming teachers and school administrators if they were properly trained and vetted or at least proficient.

    Yet, with a few notable exceptions, most teachers and school officials are opposed to this measure. Overcoming this kind of resistance will be a major roadblock to making our schools safer.

    In addition, the survey asked, “On a scale of one to five — one being low and five being high — how important do you think legally-armed citizens are to reducing crime rates overall?”

    Three quarters of you (75 percent) answered either four or five, with more than 50 percent answering five.

    What would help most in preventing large scale shootings in public? The most popular answer among respondents – at 29 percent – was “more permissive concealed carry policies for civilians,” while 20 percent choose “more-aggressive institutionalization for mentally ill persons.”

    More armed guards/paid security personnel (16 percent) and improved background screening to determine mental wellness of gun purchasers (14 percent) were the other two preventative measures most selected in the poll.

    Clearly we have a majority of our gun carrying, member officers who feel that armed citizens are an asset in reducing violent crime and not a liability. This will be refreshing news for armed citizens who wonder about police attitudes in general on concealed carry.

    From all ranks, from Sheriffs and Chiefs on down, the vast majority (95 percent) say a federal ban on the manufacture and sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds would not reduce violent crime.

    This is in sharp contrast to my own home state of Colorado, where the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police stood in support of the magazine ban and other restrictions while many Sheriffs bluntly said in the press that they would not enforce any bans on magazines or so called assault weapons.

    I will allow myself one personal observation. If you want to disarm yourself, that is your choice. The following quote is a favorite of mine and something to keep in mind when you make that choice.

    “Sheep don’t tell wolves what’s for dinner.”
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    81% + 1
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    And why not? Teachers are stable, sane people, what could it hurt? Oh...I know, it would passively demonstrate to the students that guns aren't all bad.
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    Israel has a law that every school must have at least one armed employee.
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    Default Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    Israel has a law that every school must have at least one armed employee.
    In Israel, teenagers can't date unless one of them is armed.

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    In Israel military service is compulsory for all at age 18, it seems that about 50% manage to exempt out of it somehow.
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    Not sure if it's a good idea for teachers to be armed. There should however be security set up so psychotropic drug induced gunpersons can't just walk onto school property and start killing kids. Getting rid of a few problem teachers and replacing with non union security personnel might be a good option. Also phasing out teachers unions would be a good start to a better security and improved education for the next generation of children.
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    It isn't with a firearm, but my wife has been properly trained in the use of an expandable baton and ISSUED one by her school district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar15jules View Post
    It isn't with a firearm, but my wife has been properly trained in the use of an expandable baton and ISSUED one by her school district.
    I was armed with an expandable baton at birth, I am self trained in its use.
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    Default Re: 81% Police Favor Training & Arming School Teachers & Admins to Protect Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I was armed with an expandable baton at birth, I am self trained in its use.
    LOL....I have to spread the rep around...

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