trajedy in FL

[vic2367]

ook ,,sorry tragedy

[lts1ow]

In the end of this debate, the 2A will lose and or, their will be another civil war, or all the chest banging threepers will just comply.

That is the end to this debate, just a matter of how long till we get there.

[Hoppy]

Vic, I don't want to smack you. I said your plan is so bad I wish it had a face so I could slap it. It's a line that Wanda Sykes said in an Ice Age movie if you want the reference.

I've been arguing with anti gun types a long time. They don't just want bump stocks. They didn't even know what the hell they were a year ago. The hearing bill? only assassins use silencers. They are not a group to be reasoned with. Their end game doesn't jive with the end of your list.

As far as a bargaining chip, I believe the second amendment counts. I think you need to look at it appropriately though. It is not a limitation on the individual. It (the 2nd, and while we're at it the rest of the Bill of Rights) is a limitation on government.

[Square Bag]

first off want to send my condolences out to FL ..

now how about this deal ?
1}we give the left bump stock ban
2}mental health reform as in if a DR finds you mentally unfit AND a judge does also ,then be put in the national NICS/PICS sysyem .{ but with a chance of getting the persons named removed also in the future .}
and
3}finally close the so called lop hole crap . as in no more person to person direct sales of rifles and or shotguns .

now we get

1} national hearing bill passed
2} national repircosity passed in both houses of congress

what does everyone feel about this deal ?

Hell no. Give backs are permanent. We should be fighting to expand gun rights with majorities in both houses.

[mikelets456]

They are going to continue to take more and more. Freely give them these things today and then tomorrow when another shooting happens they are going to be there screaming for more. They do not want to make a deal and I wont bargain for my rights nor will I support anyone that is willing to.

They have made in clear they want assault style weapons and hi cap mags along with more regulations as well as to limit the sale of ammunition and they wont stop until they get it.

No Thanks!

They don't care about these kids...they don't even care about the families. The more I watch these disingenuous scammers (Yes, the media included) they feel we need to serve them and rely on them for every need. They're pissed that we are able to defend ourselves. It is an illness....a power grab and total control. Believe me, if there was a way to disarm us citizens tomorrow they would do it and could care less of MS-13 and drug lord attacks on honest citizens.

[TapNRack]

Yeah, no.

How about
1) we get the hearing protection act
and
2) cc reciprocity
and then
3) we all go out for ice cream?

[Emptymag]

Yeah, no.

How about
1) we get the hearing protection act
and
2) cc reciprocity
and then
3) we all go out for ice cream?

Sigh.

Then we gotta argue about what flavor is best.

[MARINE DIVISION TWO]

Chipping away at our 2A rights,and no guarantee congress would pass ! I say its a fail fail fail !

[vic2367]

all good points
just figured a few years ago we had a lot of momentum with gun rights
now . not as much

[DMG]

first off want to send my condolences out to FL ..

now how about this deal ?
1}we give the left bump stock ban
2}mental health reform as in if a DR finds you mentally unfit AND a judge does also ,then be put in the national NICS/PICS sysyem .{ but with a chance of getting the persons named removed also in the future .}
and
3}finally close the so called lop hole crap . as in no more person to person direct sales of rifles and or shotguns .

now we get

1} national hearing bill passed
2} national repircosity passed in both houses of congress

what does everyone feel about this deal ?

How about next time you get a dumb idea you keep it to yourself?