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    Default Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    Hi,

    Does anyone journal/take notes on their shooting trips or round count?

    I am still a young man but have been shooting on my own for about 15 years. I have spent this time learning and developing fundamentals. I would say I have had much exposure, a bit of expertise, and little mastery. I have had a lot of fun however, I always look for ways to make it better. In some successful years, I was able to up the fun by spending a lot more $$$. I am not in one of those lucrative periods.

    During this same 15 years I have been in and out of school (yes I know, probably too long). I am reaching the final stages of my PhD and the biggest improvements with this came because i began to journal my research. No exhausting details, just stuff i would want to refer back to. I am also from an exercise science and sports training field so charting workouts and fitness progression has been a major facet of what I do.

    When I read some reviews or see posts, I see some data presented and it always interests me because i love research. This is nothing new but I never applied it because I have no interests in writing reviews or producing youtube videos. I realized charting my trips may just make my hobby more enjoyable. I already employ some techniques such as marking magazines with a number to help troubleshoot if need be.

    I have also never kept track of round counts on any firearms I have owned. I once bought and sold a lot but not so much anymore. I have a little and I try to maximize my use of them. I see round counts in the classified ads, and I am skeptical of them to say the least. I may be wrong and find that most shooters log round counts and have a pretty good base to estimate use.

    I was thinking of a small book such as a "field notes" book. Throwing a tape measure in my bag for groups. I was thinking of logging:

    date/time/place/indoor-outdoor
    firearm used
    rounds fired
    ammo used
    Modality? bench, standing, prone, one hand or off hand or weak hand?
    group diameter
    list issues: jam, FTF, #of negligent discharges (just kidding)
    comments

    I know a lot of people do velocity. This is great but not in my wheelhouse right now. Im not looking into buying one at the moment but hopefully one day. I'm probably not going to pull a NUTNFANCY and save every target i use over the next 20 years but I am open to marking them with a pen and snapping a photo I can archive.

    TLDR: I'm interested to hear from people who collect some data on their shooting. What do you do? Anything cool I am missing? Any simple extra gear I can bring along?

    Thanks Everybody

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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    Take note of weather conditions if you are shooting outside
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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    It's called an DOPE book. I use it for all my high power matches.
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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    I wanted to.. but after the first real plinking range visit my hype became sadness when I realized how much money I just shot downrange LOL
    Now I just take a trunk load and have fun

    for long distance and accuracy I would keep a dope book.. but for plinking days.. NAH
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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    I bring targets back from the range, note on the target the date, loads, group measurements, and anything that seems relevant (like wind, temperature, support, position of forearm, etc. if rifle; grip or trigger technique if pistol), take a pic with my phone, send it to my desktop.

    I log data to an excel spreadsheet to facilitate search and analysis.

    So now I have data on a few years of progression by firearm, caliber, and load data. "Proven" reloads have a page in the spreadsheet for ready access when the need arises.

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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    It's called an DOPE book. I use it for all my high power matches.
    http://www.champchoice.com/store/Mai...yBody&c=RASGSB
    And it goes in your Dope Bag.

    Sight Dope for your Scope.

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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    The Importance of the Data Book, By SFC Jason St John, USAMU Service Rifle Team Member
    http://www.odcmp.org/0706/USAMU_Databooks.asp

    Plot Sheets/Data Book free to download
    http://www.northstateshootingclub.co...lotSheets.html

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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    Come on guys this is 2018!
    I use an app on my IPhone for shooting data. For many years, I used one from the CMP for High Power, but they stopped updating it a few years ago an it's no longer available.
    I finally found a good replacement last year called Score Buddy v1.51 (www.dadekato.com)
    I have data for every High Power and CMP practice and match that I've shot since May of 2007.

    Another great app that I use is called "Ballistic: Advanced Edition" it's a trajectory calculator, range finder, and wind calculator.
    Last edited by Hawk; February 14th, 2018 at 04:52 AM.
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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    When I do training from the holster I keep my dash cam pointed at the firing line and record the session.
    It is useful for reviewing technique and spotting things that you miss while you're busy doing them.
    It also helps me to see how fat I've become.
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    Default Re: Any tips from someone who journals their shooting trips?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    When I do training from the holster I keep my dash cam pointed at the firing line and record the session.
    It is useful for reviewing technique and spotting things that you miss while you're busy doing them.
    It also helps me to see how fat I've become.
    That's wives are supposed to do.

    A bathroom scale provides backup.

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