PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

**gghbi** · March 18th, 2018, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Williamsmith

I will agree with you on one thing. If you are going to field a sidearm and not put enough emphasis on training and retraining for basic safe handling of the firearm.....then you should buy the most dummy proof gun made.

If that were the case, they would have gone back to revolvers!

**Williamsmith** · March 18th, 2018, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by gghbi

If that were the case, they would have gone back to revolvers!

The Ruger Security Six in .357 magnum was a duty weapon that served PSP well. They have gone through five new firearms reissues since 1993.

Another postscript. While PSP was ditching Glock in favor of Sig. New Jersey was suing Sig and replacing their duty weapon to.........Glock.

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/18/new-j...pistol-defect/

**unclejumbo** · March 18th, 2018, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Williamsmith

Alright, so the main downfall is that although Glocks are very affordable for a large department in initial outlay, the baggage they bring with them in the form of training expenses, holster research and development, NDs and their resultant injuries as a factor of cost by lost workdays and duty related medical bills and other design expenses......makes them unacceptable as a general issue pistol. Got it.

Why did PSP go to Glocks in the first place? They replaced the Beretta 92D after only a few years in service. In double action only with no safety and no decocking lever it simply had a slide release. We’re there ND issues with that gun? Was it because PSP believed they were going to be getting a more reliable general issue weapon? Or was it simply because they had money in the budget that they had to spend? Or both. And after many years with the Glock in .45GAP ....why did they decide to replace a perfectly good firearm again.....with another Glock? One that could take 45ACP. Cost/benefit analysis?

So I am to believe that somehow PSP fielded Glocks in 45GAP for years and never realized what an undesirable weapon it was so much so that they replaced it with another Glock model. The answer is PSP never had a problem with Glock firearms until they had a problem with Glocks response to their gen4 “problems”. So they did what PSP does. The heck with cost/analysis....rearm the entire force with an entirely new firearm.

I will agree with you on one thing. If you are going to field a sidearm and not put enough emphasis on training and retraining for basic safe handling of the firearm.....then you should buy the most dummy proof gun made.

There is so little that you know that my response would be ten paragraphs. If I'm inclined to respond, it will be later. For now, I'll say it again. They have a term for a Glock's proclivity to fire upon holstering. That doesn't happen when it's an isolated event.

**Williamsmith** · March 18th, 2018, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by unclejumbo

There is so little that you know that my response would be ten paragraphs. If I'm inclined to respond, it will be later. For now, I'll say it again. They have a term for a Glock's proclivity to fire upon holstering. That doesn't happen when it's an isolated event.

I’ll tell you what. I will graciously allow you to have the last word. Even if you are inclined to respond. You have been patient with my defense of the Glock. Thank you for your service to the Commonwealth.

**Highnoone** · March 19th, 2018, 08:27 AM

If this is such a common problem in the law enforcement community maybe they should start getting kevlar slacks for those guys?

**Williamsmith** · March 19th, 2018, 10:43 AM

SOCOM ...FBI...and almost 2/3 of the law enforcement community use Glocks not to mention the millions of them in the hands of civilians. You would think that there would have been a task force similar to the opioid crisis driven by the wave of injured reholster victims overrunning emergency rooms with gunshot wounds to the leg. Fear is a great sales tactic.

**Statkowski** · March 19th, 2018, 12:15 PM

Had to unholster and reholster my sidearm this morning when I visited the eye doctor (the hospital is posted). I have a gun safe in my vehicle.

Nope, no negligent discharge here. My booger hook stays well clear of the bang switch.

**Williamsmith** · March 19th, 2018, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Statkowski

Had to unholster and reholster my sidearm this morning when I visited the eye doctor (the hospital is posted). I have a gun safe in my vehicle.

Nope, no negligent discharge here. My booger hook stays well clear of the bang switch.

Well, perhaps we can reclaim Glocks reputation......one successful reholster at a time.