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  1. #391
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by cdi View Post
    You could simply not tell the copper you have a gun.
    Abscent rare circumstance, lying to the flatfoot is not against the law.
    You can bet he'll lie to you at the drop of a hat.
    The PO-PO are encouraged to tell falsehoods to get you to fess up to some nefarious actions you may or may not have done.
    American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE

  2. #392
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Stopped twice while carrying. First thing was, my hands out the window with my driver's license & CC permit. So far ( to date ) no problem.

  3. #393
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimsouth33 View Post
    Stopped twice while carrying. First thing was, my hands out the window with my driver's license & CC permit. So far ( to date ) no problem.

    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

  4. #394
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimsouth33 View Post
    Stopped twice while carrying. First thing was, my hands out the window with my driver's license & CC permit. So far ( to date ) no problem.
    Don't forget to loudly proclaim that you have a gun when doing your hands out the window dance thing.
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  5. #395
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by LTCcarrier View Post
    As a former police officer and graduate of the MPOTC of the Pa State Police I either do not believe the poster that this really happened. If it did, you would be filing a complaint. If you did not file a complaint then you should not post such garbage on this site. Go file a complaint or seek an attorney to file it for you. No department would put up with such nonsense from its LEOs.
    You must not have been a "former" for very long if you have not seen this happen ohhh.. at least 20 or 70 times.

  6. #396
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by cdi View Post
    You could simply not tell the copper you have a gun.
    Abscent rare circumstance, lying to the flatfoot is not against the law.
    You can bet he'll lie to you at the drop of a hat.
    Ahh.. but if he catches you in said lie, you're done. You've just handed him the lube, pulled down your pants, and given him every excuse to jam it home. Only difference is you will feel violated as all hell afterward and won't even have arrest papers to show for it.

    If you lie about having a gun..and or somehow comes out that you do, you have satisfied both prongs of Terry that he needs to cuff and search you and your vehicle. You are 1) Armed and 2) you are now dangerous.

  7. #397
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    The only cops who could manage that trick are gun guys, and they wouldn't pull that crap.

    Hell the one who disarmed me needed instructions - from me - just to *clear* my 1911, no way he was taking it apart.
    No...a tru "gun cop" would never ever screw with your 1911.. he would be too worried about leaving idiot marks or having to tell you he lost one of your springs in the dark.

  8. #398
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lieutenant View Post
    No...a tru "gun cop" would never ever screw with your 1911.. he would be too worried about leaving idiot marks or having to tell you he lost one of your springs in the dark.
    If I stop someone and I am not familiar with their firearm, I point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger until it stops firing. I then know the firearm is unloaded and we are all safe.

  9. #399
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    If I stop someone and I am not familiar with their firearm, I point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger until it stops firing. I then know the firearm is unloaded and we are all safe.
    Hell... If I cant figure out how to unload it, I just hand him back mine and hope he doesn't notice the difference!

  10. #400
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lieutenant View Post
    Hell... If I cant figure out how to unload it, I just hand him back mine and hope he doesn't notice the difference!
    Good idea. I’ll have to try that in the future.

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