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October 15th, 2018, 08:47 PM #451
Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
It all comes down in how you treat someone. I know people who can tell you to go to hell, and you would enjoy the trip.
Some folks have an agenda (both police and civilian) and are going to have a chip on their shoulder either way.
There are probably many more instances where there is no adverse issues during police/civilian interactions, but they are not as much fun to talk about.
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October 15th, 2018, 08:52 PM #452
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October 15th, 2018, 09:47 PM #453
Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
I could argue either side in this, I've had very good encounters with some excellent cops, and had very bad encounters with some JBT's, like the State Trooper who told me that the pre-existing .22" diameter holes in sheet metal were caused by the 9mm rounds that my client was firing at targets on the other side of 500 yards of dense woods.
However, asking folks to focus on that majority of cop-citizen interactions where nothing went sideways, is a little like asking the jury to focus on the millions of people that OJ did NOT stab and decapitate.
Most cops act like adults who are responsible for what they do. What worries some of us is what happens when other cops do bad things; does their union cover for them, do their fellow officers cover for them, does their department cover for them?Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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October 15th, 2018, 10:23 PM #454
Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
It’s probably the same ratio as doctors, lawyers, pilots, teachers who’s union cover for them.
My philosophy is, that if you make a mistake of the heart, while trying to do the right thing, I will support you.
If you make a mistake of the mind, trying to get over, then you are on your own.
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October 16th, 2018, 10:38 AM #455Super Member
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Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
Of course, the difference being, that none of the jobs that you’ve listed come with government ordained power to deprive somebody of life and liberty. Doctors, lawyers, pilots, and teachers can’t stop me, handcuff me, arrest me, throw me in jail, and then charge me with any assortment of crimes that can effectively ruin my life. A doctor and a pilot might cause the loss of my life, but it would be an accident and not part of their job description. A police officer, however, can kill you on purpose, and if it was a mistake possibly(or likely) face little repercussions. Because of the power invested in them by the government, they must be held to a far higher standard of how they conduct themselves in the course of their work then pretty much any other profession that I can think of off the top of my head.
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October 16th, 2018, 10:47 AM #456
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October 16th, 2018, 11:09 AM #457Grand Member
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Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
We HAVE to assume that ALL questioning will be used against us. Not answering questions is literally our only defense.
Every traffic stop should be assumed to be adversarial until the cop comes up to the window and says, "I just wanna give you some leftover donuts."American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE
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Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop
Wow, this thread has been going on for a while.
Here in Pennsylvania, I wouldn't say a word about my guns.
I was stopped in the must inform state of Ohio. I gave the cop my carry licence and told him that I had. He said something like, "Don't pull it out and wave it around." I got a verbal warning and went on my way.
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October 16th, 2018, 12:00 PM #460
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