PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

[cdi]

Don't get your tail feathers all twisted up, lt.
Stop by the shop, I'll have an emotional support doughnut and some coffee ready for you.

[gnbrotz]

The game being played is often called fishing, such as even asking about firearms or where I'm coming from or where I'm headed, none of which is relevant or any of your business. You pulled the driver over for a moving violation, not a suspected felony. Ask for the necessary documents, write the ticket, then piss off. Anything other than this, for me personally, is going to result in non-compliance.

Ahh....but anyone *could be* a felon....that's just good police work. But assuming any cop *could be* a JBT and acting accordingly....that's parnoia and being "uncooperative".

[Berncly]

Ok, I see how it is... cant have any fun with you guys at all. One group can say whatever but the other has to be all serious all the time. Oh how the double standard is so alive and well at pooo-fa!

I stand by that statement (minus the humor since your all so sensitive) because that's the reality of the situation. If you get caught lying about possessing a firearm you are setting yourself up for a bad time with little if any recourse.

Welcome to Poofa
Stick around, in a week or two you won't even notice it anymore.
Poofa is good people, we fight and bitch, but it's a good bunch of guys and gals.
Happy to have you.

[staylo]

I stand by that statement (minus the humor since your all so sensitive) because that's the reality of the situation. If you get caught lying about possessing a firearm you are setting yourself up for a bad time with little if any recourse.

I don’t understand this. Wouldn’t anything that comes out if the prohibited question, including the lie, be ‘fruit of the poisoned tree”? If so, then I would think there would be recourse.

[The Lieutenant]

Don't get your tail feathers all twisted up, lt.
Stop by the shop, I'll have an emotional support doughnut and some coffee ready for you.

Did you say...donut????

[The Lieutenant]

I don’t understand this. Wouldn’t anything that comes out if the prohibited question, including the lie, be ‘fruit of the poisoned tree”? If so, then I would think there would be recourse.

Yes.. if you were charged criminally with something then it would be subject to suppression. If you are not charged criminally however, you are basically talking about questioning during detention that isnt going to be used against you.. that's a tough one.

[ray h]

Sometimes there is some fishing going on. There may be another reason why you blew through that stop sign than you have to get to a bathroom. I may stop you for the sign, but the store that was just held up across town or in the adjoining district, is in the back of my mind. Your answer (or refusal) to where you are going/coming from, helps determine my course of action. It’s nothing personal.

And my refusal to answer, or inaccuracy in answering, is nothing personal, it's just me exercising my rights. Be careful in your actions because my refusal does not indicate criminal activity.

[cdi]

Did you say...donut????

Sure. Krispy crème, powdered sugar, glazed whatever you want.

[cdi]

And my refusal to answer, or inaccuracy in answering, is nothing personal, it's just me exercising my rights. Be careful in your actions because my refusal does not indicate criminal activity.

You could easily make the case that by not admitting you are heeled, you are protecting the officer.
Cops are not generally gun guys. I carried a 1911 in uniform for close to 15 years. During that time, I had numerous seasoned cops tell me "hey, your gun is cocked".

It's far safer for everyone concerned if the peeler keeps his sugar smeared hands off my pistol.
Unless he's a dea agent with a Glock and dread locks, for example.

[Pag23]

You could easily make the case that by not admitting you are heeled, you are protecting the officer.
Cops are not generally gun guys. I carried a 1911 in uniform for close to 15 years. During that time, I had numerous seasoned cops tell me "hey, your gun is cocked".

It's far safer for everyone concerned if the peeler keeps his sugar smeared hands off my pistol.
Unless he's a dea agent with a Glock and dread locks, for example.

I am not LE..but interested in the coffee and donuts you have.