PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

[Will3212]

Can you ever trust that weapon again? How do you know they didn't fuck something up inside it just for laughs, meanness, sick joke, disrespect of their masters, you looked like the guy who is fucking their wives, looked like the guy who took their lunch money in third grade? Pick one. It's probably several!
MAKE THEM PAY! Make their supervisors wish they had never met these abusive shits. Make your elected representative sorry he hears their names.
Remember this, Donald Trump is POTUS ! We have to act now, seize the day, make all the progress we can, RIGHT NOW! You've got less than three years left to turn all this shit around. Get to it!

this, to have a law abiding citizen's legal firearm dissembled is ridiculous

[streaker69]

Allowing them to lock in the truck is a bad idea too. Once you open that trunk, you'll be letting them rifle through it too, plain sight and all. The best option is that police should respect the rights of the people they're sworn to protect and serve. If they're not capable of doing that, then maybe they should find another job.

[unclejumbo]

It comes down to. Don't ask don't tell. My wife has a habit of telling folks more than they need to know.

That makes two of us, if you come across a remedy please do share it.

Have you tried hitter her?

[P89]

Have you tried hitter her?

I usually just stick something in her mouth.

[Walleye Hunter]

Have you tried hitter her?

I'm not that kind of guy but it sure was tempting a time or two.

[CoalcrackerAl]

I just say lets go now!

[staylo]

This is a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. Clearly we can see from this post what happens when you DO inform. And we’ve seen numerous similar posts of the problems that come with informing an officer who isn’t necessarily knowledgeable on the law regarding firearms, seizures, and “registration”. But there also can be issues with NOT informing when you’re asked. If for some reason the stop should come to the point where you actually do need to inform the officer, like he asks you to exit the vehicle for some reason, now you’re in a situation where the officer is likely to blow his stack because you “lied” to him. At which point, you are probably in for a rectal examination of your life and vehicle while he tries to find some way to teach you a lesson. So I’m still wondering if there is a “magic bullet” response that allows someone not to lie, doesn’t arouse suspicion, doesn’t give the officer the impression you are being “confrontational”, and has hopefully minimal blowback if it comes to a point where someone actually does need to tell the officer they’re armed. Perhaps it’s a unicorn and just doesn’t exist, but with all the LEOs on the forum I would certainly be interested to hear what kind of responses they think might fit the bill. Obviously, the real problem is that some LEOs take a citizen’s asserting their constitutional rights as either evasiveness, some sort of evidence of wrongdoing, or that they’re a troublemaker, and that if you don’t “have anything to hide” then you should simply do whatever it is the officer wants you to do. Fixing that mindset should be the solution, but until that happens(soon right?) we still need to figure out a way to successfully navigate traffic stops. I think the closest I have heard to that kind of response is, before answering any questions, if the officer doesn’t expressly tell you the nature of the stop, ask what it is in order to set the scope of the investigation, and then politely tell the officer you will not be answering any questions outside of the scope of the investigation. At least then they cannot pinpoint a particular question that they feel someone doesn’t want to answer. Hopefully one of these days we will come up with that “magic bullet” response, or that officers will stop viewing citizens exercising their rights as impertinence, but until then I’m glad we keep having these conversations because it helps to work towards at least one of those goals.

[Joe88XJ]

So I called the PSP internal affairs division left a message got a return call explain to the Corporal who called me from internal affairs what happened he wouldn't offer me an opinion on whether it was routine training for state troopers to do what these guys did or not but he did say he needed it in writing and he's going to mail me a form that I can fill out and send back and then the complaint will be reviewed and I should be contacted.

[stainless]

What was the point of disassembly? Why not just unload the damn thing?

My guess would be because people carry spare mags, thus their thinking concerning disassembly. Of course that doesn't take into consideration BUGs.

[streaker69]

So I called the PSP internal affairs division left a message got a return call explain to the Corporal who called me from internal affairs what happened he wouldn't offer me an opinion on whether it was routine training for state troopers to do what these guys did or not but he did say he needed it in writing and he's going to mail me a form that I can fill out and send back and then the complaint will be reviewed and I should be contacted.

You need to contact your state rep too, especially if your rep is Darryl Metcalfe, he's very pro gun.