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  1. #381
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    Sadly this neither surprises me nor would I rather see them clear it without knowing. My next door neighbor is a cop and doesnt know how to field strip his duty weapon. The few times I went shooting with him, I offered to clean it afterwards since he would let it go otherwise.

    I remember years back there used to be ongoing threads where it used to be problematic that during a traffic stop; LEO would run your weapon through there "not-registry/sales database" and if it wasnt in there, they would confiscate it until you could prove ownership. I havent heard much about that recently. Is it no longer a problem?
    How do you prove ownership if you lose your receipt? Is losing a receipt now a violation of law?
    If it ain't broke it ain't mine.

  2. #382
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    How do you prove ownership if you lose your receipt? Is losing a receipt now a violation of law?
    Exactly; that was the problem for many.... I have some guns over 20 yrs old. I couldnt tell ya where the receipts were for some of the ones ive bought in the last year let alone the older ones.

  3. #383
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  4. #384
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    Sadly this neither surprises me nor would I rather see them clear it without knowing. My next door neighbor is a cop and doesnt know how to field strip his duty weapon. The few times I went shooting with him, I offered to clean it afterwards since he would let it go otherwise.

    I remember years back there used to be ongoing threads where it used to be problematic that during a traffic stop; LEO would run your weapon through there "not-registry/sales database" and if it wasnt in there, they would confiscate it until you could prove ownership. I havent heard much about that recently. Is it no longer a problem?
    I hope he isn't on the street..failure to know how a tool operates can cause a failure to save a life..

  5. #385
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Another month without an update?

  6. #386
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    I knew a well-respected plain-clothes officer who carried a .30 caliber Luger that he had never fired. I tried to suggest he should fire a magazine full to prove function, Luger sometimes being a little touchy. He wasn't interested. Thankfully, he never had to use it.

  7. #387
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    The trouble is, what can you really do about it? There I am, old, fat, decrepit, strapped in sitting down, with my gun in deep cover. There he/she is, younger, standing free, in better physical condition, with a firearm exposed for easy access. I have no desire to be pulled out my car window and forced to kiss the pavement.

  8. #388
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe88XJ View Post
    Nope form never came in the mail, I spoke with a live person who took my information and nothing came.
    Did you talk to someone from their Internal Affairs / Bureau of Integrity and Professional Standards or did you just talk to the someone at a PSP station? If the latter is true, it probably got quashed as soon as you got off the phone.

  9. #389
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    Quote Originally Posted by punxsutawneypete View Post
    The trouble is, what can you really do about it? There I am, old, fat, decrepit, strapped in sitting down, with my gun in deep cover. There he/she is, younger, standing free, in better physical condition, with a firearm exposed for easy access. I have no desire to be pulled out my car window and forced to kiss the pavement.
    You could simply not tell the copper you have a gun.
    Abscent rare circumstance, lying to the flatfoot is not against the law.
    You can bet he'll lie to you at the drop of a hat.
    Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter

  10. #390
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    Default Re: PA state trooper disassenbled my gun during traffic stop

    My friend just moved to Florida and he took the concealed carry class to get his Fla license, being ex military he took it anyway. We have gone back and forth before about disclosing to a cop that you are carrying if pulled over. He says you should, and I say you shouldnt. He told me he brought it up to his CC instructor about whether to disclose it or not, he tells me his instructor sided with him. First thing out of my mouth is "the instructors an ex cop right?" He looks at me and smiles because I was right.
    Facts all come with points of view, facts dont do what I want them to.

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