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February 3rd, 2018, 09:43 PM #1Junior Member
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Pa firearms transfer I.D question
Let's say your PA state DL is expired by a month because you haven't received it back in the mail yet.
You go to transfer a gun at an FFL from yourself to someone else... you have the expired DL and a current carry permit.
Will the carry permit work as I.D, will they just write the expired DL number down or will they not do the transfer? Would this be up to the person doing the transfer? Is any photo ID acceptable?
ThanksLast edited by keystonetarget; February 3rd, 2018 at 10:03 PM.
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February 3rd, 2018, 10:08 PM #2
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
Not a vaild ID. PICS would reject it.
But from you to someone with valid ID, and if addr on LTCF and DL match, I would transfer from you. The DL not need form the =from person on the forms.Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
NRA CRSO/Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun inst. BSA Rifle/Shotgun Merit badge counselor. US Navy Marksmanship Team Staff
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February 3rd, 2018, 10:08 PM #3
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
Not a vaild ID. PICS would reject it.
But from you to someone with valid ID, and if addr on LTCF and DL match, I would transfer from you. The DL not need form the =from person on the forms.Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
NRA CRSO/Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun inst. BSA Rifle/Shotgun Merit badge counselor. US Navy Marksmanship Team Staff
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February 4th, 2018, 02:48 AM #4
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February 4th, 2018, 04:46 AM #5
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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February 4th, 2018, 09:09 AM #6
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February 9th, 2018, 02:38 PM #7
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
These things happen. When you procrastinate.
Member of Zerbe Township Rod & Gun Club.
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February 9th, 2018, 05:18 PM #8
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
Your ID does not have to be a PA DL, it can be any valid government ID that shows name, address and date of birth and photo. Passports work, military ID works. The 4473 explains what can be used in block 18a and 18b to satisfy the requirements. For a handgun, the SP4-113 (Application/Record of Sale) requires government issued documentation to establish proof of identity that will provide the following: photo, name, residence address, date of birth, signature of individual.
Even though on the SP4-113 has a block for the DL, it does not have to be a PA DL that is used.
From the PICS Manual for PA Firearms Dealers: "Any combination of valid government issued documentation which together establishes all of the required information is acceptable. If the primary ID (say a valid PA DL - my addition) satisfies all required information a secondary ID is not required.Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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February 9th, 2018, 07:38 PM #9
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February 9th, 2018, 08:06 PM #10
Re: Pa firearms transfer I.D question
No, the still have the photo card. But like I said everything up getting your photo taken can be done from a smartphone, in a lounge chair, in your living room. And the photo card it self is valid for a period of time as a license.
If you have to wait at the DMV you ain’t doing it right. I have never gotten one in Philadelphia, but found slow locations in Norristown. I went after daywork, when my hours are just like people with real jobs, and was in and out in about 12 minutes. Don’t let any other of the .gov workers know how efficient they worked at this location.
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