Just a thought about modern day ammunition

**GeneCC** · February 20th, 2018, 11:47 PM

Darn - I found the data at the bottom of that pdf....

Fastest Incapacitation times....

380 ACP Mag safe 60g - 7.12 seconds

38 special 2" barrel, Glaser 80gr +P - 4.72 seconds

9mm 4.25" barrel, Mag Safe 68gr +P - 4.74 seconds

357 Magnum, 4" Quik-Shock 125 HP - 4.40 seconds

40 S&W 4" barrel, MagSafe 84 gr - 4.52 seconds

10mm 4.24" barrel MagSafe 92gr - 4.48 seconds

45 acp 5" barrel, MagSafe 96gr +P - 4.68 seconds

All of these were exotic high speed rounds. The 357 wins.

The one that surprised me was the 38 snub... it was very close to the 45 acp. Which makes me wonder about the conclusions of the study.

**Daycrawler** · February 21st, 2018, 12:50 AM

Gene I don't doubt the .38 special round. It is really nothing more than a short .357 magnum. I have carried 6 of the calibers listed above, except the 10mm.

**sota** · February 21st, 2018, 08:39 AM

what's with all the tiny round weights? No one in their right mind would carry that 9mm load, for example.

**GeneCC** · February 22nd, 2018, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by sota

what's with all the tiny round weights? No one in their right mind would carry that 9mm load, for example.

I am not sure. They all had high muzzle velocities.

I am skeptical of the strasbourg studies but want more data.

**JenniferG** · February 22nd, 2018, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Gunsnwater

It's all gobeldegook to sell guns other than 1911 45s to people too weak to carry and operate the gun god intended for man.

Yee haaa!

Yeah, they can say all they want about all that new fangled hollerpoint poly tipped copper swaged so and so but when push comes to shove and have to shoot through an engine block and two houses to knock a perp back ten feet you shoot a .45 acp.