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February 2nd, 2018, 08:34 PM #11Active Member
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Re: Long range rifle class
Ghost LRP I class starts you at the beginning. Day one we were shooting at 100 yards to check zero and level of our optics to the rifle and shooting through lab radar to get shooting solutions if we didn’t have a ballistics app. We worked our way out by 100 yard increments. At the end of day one the instructors didn’t even want us shooting at 1000 yards. They assume nothing and make certain everyone is successful at every range. It’s a beginner level course, that’s why they have other level classes, but Ghost keeps it challenging and very interesting with the competition and games too. We also spent an hour or so in a classroom going over some basic, but good necesssry stuff before we headed to the range.
Like I said I never shot beyond 300 myself either.
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February 2nd, 2018, 08:37 PM #12Active Member
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February 2nd, 2018, 09:07 PM #13Active Member
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February 3rd, 2018, 11:35 AM #14Super Member
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Re: Long range rifle class
I should point out I don't represent Rockwell and have never taken the long range class but I have taken other classes from them, great guys.
You must have missed them, they have 3 or 4 listed on their site for this year and my experience is you have to check their site often because they add classes during the year.
The following is a class description from their web site:
Long-Range Marksmanship 101 - Apr. 20-22, 2018 - Towanda, PA
This class is for shooters who have attended a carbine course and are ready to expand their ability to shoot beyond the near-threat range. The course is designed from the combat long-range marksmanship perspective and will provide shooters with the tools they need to be able to stretch their competency to the beginning of the transonic range. Students completing this class will be confident in their ability to accurately account for the atmosphere, elevation, and their weapon’s muzzle velocity as they use this data to reliably produce first-round hits on long-range targets; shooters will re-define their understanding of the word “effective” in “maximum effective range.”
Day 1: The prone supported shooting position, setting up your rifle, introduction to optics.
Day 2: shooting: zero, true zero (muzzle velocity “MV”), understanding & applying atmospherics, holdover data “DOPE” for various known ranges given your weapon system’s MV.
Day 3: the “cold-bore” zero, using your tools, known distance shooting exam
Lunch will be provided Saturday and Sunday.
Length: 2.5 day class
Time: 1pm-5pm Friday, 9am-5pm Saturday & Sunday
Type: Classroom Instruction and Hands-On Training
Audience: Everyone
Prerequisites: Carbine 101 or equivalent
Topics Covered:
Weapons system setup
100m Zero with your Optic
True Zero (muzzle velocity calculation)
Known distance marksmanship
What to Bring: Rifle/Carbine, articulated reticle rifle scope 1-10x or larger, approximately 150 rounds of ammunition, eye protection, ear protection, laser range finder (can be provided if you don't have one), notebook & pencil, calculator, owner’s manual for your optic (.pdf or hard copy), hat/ball cap.
The following link will take you to the first class listing:
http://www.shop.rockwelltactical.com...420-lrm101.htm
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February 3rd, 2018, 04:50 PM #15
Re: Long range rifle class
Glad for the OP! I am always looking to expand my horizons as well. I'll throw in my appreciation to Black Hat as well. Freddy was an amazing instructor who was patient and thorough. The class we were in started everyone from their comfort levels and pushed us out to do things that amazed us all. I wouldn't mind taking the exact same class again. I am sure I would learn even more as there is so much to cover in a short time.
I am having difficulty getting the Ghost website to load, but I look forward to checking them out as well.
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February 4th, 2018, 01:10 PM #16
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I would add to the comments about Freddy and Black Hats all around a great training program, with lots of shooting time, not too mention some theory in the class. We went out to 1000 yds on the first day and it was because everyone was hitting their targets sooner than anticipated. Going out to 1000yds was done in 100yd increments...if you get stuck at a distance, work it out, amend your dope and move on. Which is what we ended up doing. If you follow the basics and get your breathing down, your body behind the rifle, find your natural POA...hitting 1000 is not as hard as one would think.
I didn't have any real special rifle or optics. My ammo was match grade Prvi 175gr in 308. I had a Vortex Viper PST 4x16 in FFP and a Savage FLCP-k..left handed.
Before I took this training from Black Hats, I went to NHRPC, set up a chronograph, and took 5-6 sets of 5 shots each to find my speed. Once that was complete used the JBM charts, and printed out my chart...then went to the range and confirmed it. I use the same chart, but have printed another one for Fall and Spring. The differences are small but over 1000 yds, enough to miss my targets.
Either of these groups will give you the material you need to get the job done. However, once you learn it...practice, practice, practice.
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February 5th, 2018, 09:05 PM #17
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For those that took the Ghost course, did you stay at the lodge there? Leaning towards that course option as its closest drive wise
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February 6th, 2018, 08:33 PM #18Active Member
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Re: Long range rifle class
The “lodge” aka clubhouse is pretty sparse in accommodations. One big open room that everyone was sleeping on cots, air mattresses and sleeping bags. No showers. They do put on a great breakfast there though.
Me, I like a nice soft bed and AC when I’m on vacation. I stayed down the road at the Quality Inn. It’s a bit dated but close and clean enough.
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February 6th, 2018, 09:21 PM #19
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February 10th, 2018, 02:26 PM #20
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I stayed at the "lodge" and the food was very good and plentifull. If you need, bring some snacks. I didn't have time to eat the ones I brought. One big room, but many of the guys in my class stayed and we had a great time. I brought a cot and sleeping bag, which was fine....afterall, its only a weekend. Shower? Who has time to shower, when you are shooting all day.
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