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January 23rd, 2018, 09:33 PM #1Senior Member
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Returning a rifle to an out of state seller. FFL required?
Asking about transfer laws online isn't always good. If better, I can contact the ATF. I'm not sure if I should contact via email, or try to call them. If I try to call them, is their number posted online?
I recently bought an Enfield from an online auction (not Gunbroker, an online auction venue similar to RIA, Alderfers, etc.). The rifle was altered to look like a more rare/desirable rifle. The "alterer" also altered the serial number; hence I am returning the rifle. I have an FFL03.
The auction house (located in Tennessee) delivered the rifle to an FFL for shipment/transfer to me (I did not discover the serial was altered until I had the rifle, and spoke with some people who are very knowledgeable with Enfields). So, I am going to return the rifle. The auction house is going to refund my money. The auctioneer wants me to send the rifle to the person who consigned the rifle to the auction. This person lives in Alabama. So, I'm thinking, even though I'm returning the rifle from a purchase, that I need to return it to an FFL in Alabama who can then transfer the rifle to the "original" owner. Does this sound correct? I read on the ATF site that firearms sent out for repair can be returned to the owner without a transfer. But, I couldn't find anything concerning returning purchased firearms.
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:04 PM #2
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:05 PM #3Senior Member
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:10 PM #4
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Just off of the top of my head without doing the research myself but isn't altering the serial number a crime?
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:14 PM #5
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:19 PM #6Senior Member
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Re: Returning a rifle to an out of state seller. FFL required?
Yes it is; hence the reason I don't want the rifle in my possession. The auction would have had to have know a lot of specific information in order to know that the serial number had been altered. Only people who collect the rifles and study their history knew about all of the irregularities.
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:21 PM #7
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:21 PM #8
Re: Returning a rifle to an out of state seller. FFL required?
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:30 PM #9Senior Member
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Re: Returning a rifle to an out of state seller. FFL required?
Rifle was supposed to be a No1MKVI. Rifle was actually a No4 MK1 Long Branch that was altered to look like an MKVI. If you're a member on Gunboards, the thread is in the Enfield section. The "alterer" altered the serial number to resemble the type of serial number used on MKVI's. However, he made a few mistakes. A No4 Long Branch would not have a serial number that the rifle currently has.
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:34 PM #10
Re: Returning a rifle to an out of state seller. FFL required?
I am a Gunboards member so I will drop in and check out the thread. It sucks that this kind of crap is apart of the collectible firearms world but at least there are sights out there that can verify everything. Hope you get everything you invested back.
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