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January 19th, 2018, 08:37 AM #1
House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, further providing for prohibited conduct during emergency.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=2016It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
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January 19th, 2018, 10:50 AM #2
Re: House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
From the above link (inline bolding mine):
House of Representatives
Session of 2017 - 2018 Regular Session
MEMORANDUM
Posted: January 12, 2018 01:29 PM From: Representative Sheryl M. Delozier To: All House members Subject: Protecting Second Amendment Rights During Emergencies I hope you will join me in sponsoring urgent legislation needed to protect the Second Amendment rights of lawful firearm owners in light of the governor’s recent disaster declaration.
As you know, the governor issued a disaster proclamation related to the Commonwealth’s opioid crisis. I absolutely agree that the scourge of opioid, heroin and other illegal drugs, which are killing our citizens, must be fought in every way possible. A disaster declaration gives the governor vast powers, which I hope and trust he will use to help our citizens expeditiously address the opioid crisis.
But a disaster declaration under Title 35 has certain automatic effects, which I do not believe that the governor contemplated before issuing his proclamation. One such effect under Title 18 is that a declaration criminalizes the open carrying in public or on public property of any firearm – whether a handgun, rifle or shotgun. The intent of this prohibition is to protect communities from looting and criminal behavior in the time of a natural disaster, and would last for the full duration of the declared disaster. While the declaration of disaster for the opioid crisis gives the state tools to use to help Pennsylvania citizens in this public health crisis, the issue addressed under Title 18 in the declaration is not necessary and should not be in effect.
My bill would simply provide that the prohibition against open carrying of an otherwise lawful firearm only applies if the disaster declaration expressly declares that such a prohibition is required to maintain public safety. Because the governor’s disaster declaration made no such declaration, upon enactment of this bill, firearm owners’ Second Amendment rights would once again be secure in Pennsylvania.
With the understanding that concealing a long gun is somewhat difficult, this reads to me like they want to ban guns without banning guns. Regardless, I fail to see how forcing concealed carry protects communities. Don'tcha think an openly carried long arm would be more of a deterrent than the possibility of one? Just sayin'...
As to the second bolded part:
Given that politics and .gov work the way they do, this looks like the sort of baby step in the right direction that might actually fly - not that Wolf is likely to sign it if it passes. Ideally the whole section regarding firearm limitations would be gone, but - again - this is the right direction.
My 2¢
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January 19th, 2018, 12:30 PM #3Active Member
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Re: House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
Let’s see who joins in the sponsorship. She’s been around awhile and serves on many committees. To me her best resume builder was working during the Ridge and Schweiker Administrations, two of my favorite Governors.
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January 19th, 2018, 12:54 PM #4
Re: House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
I am telling you all.. it is no mistake that Wolfie signed the State of Emergency and it restricts open carry .. they knew exactly what they are doing and could have easily stated it would not affect gun rights.
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January 19th, 2018, 12:57 PM #5
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January 19th, 2018, 02:12 PM #6Active Member
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January 19th, 2018, 02:55 PM #7
Re: House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
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January 19th, 2018, 03:06 PM #8
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January 19th, 2018, 05:54 PM #9
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January 20th, 2018, 12:49 PM #10
Re: House bill 2016 - 2nd amendment rights during emergency
Without a ltcf. Can open carry with a ltcf.
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