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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    The safety looks like it's straight from a Jennings J25 (my first pistol, yeah low standards) but that's the only design cue I'm seeing. Does the magazine really eject when you hit the release? Jennings and Raven you have to pull the mag out.
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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS20 View Post
    The safety looks like it's straight from a Jennings J25 (my first pistol, yeah low standards) but that's the only design cue I'm seeing. Does the magazine really eject when you hit the release? Jennings and Raven you have to pull the mag out.
    If you notice these guns have two manual safeties, they are super extra safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS20 View Post
    The safety looks like it's straight from a Jennings J25 (my first pistol, yeah low standards) but that's the only design cue I'm seeing. Does the magazine really eject when you hit the release? Jennings and Raven you have to pull the mag out.
    Yep,you sure do.I still have one of those Raven mags and a handful of ammo for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    If you notice these guns have two manual safeties, they are super extra safe.
    LOL
    Yeah, I think they did that to be able to sell in states like CA, MD and MA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemko View Post
    You can get an extended target barrel for them too.

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    I know a guy who bought that setup at the old valley forge gun show 20 years ago. Neither barrel would run. Jam o matic. I think he might have sent it back for repairs. I lost track. Truly a shitty gun, his I mean. You got very lucky.

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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    From what I remember, these were originally from a group of "manufacturers" known as the Ring of Fire in CA. Pot metal (Zinc alloy) and might allow 1 shot before they jammed. If you can get a complete magazine to fire, you are doing well. Dave_n

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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    My experience with the Raven was a hit to my left arm 25 acp by a punk 16 year old in 1970s ! JD detention till 21 and out on the streets at that time !

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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_n View Post
    From what I remember, these were originally from a group of "manufacturers" known as the Ring of Fire in CA. Pot metal (Zinc alloy) and might allow 1 shot before they jammed. If you can get a complete magazine to fire, you are doing well. Dave_n
    Yeah, I remember those gun makers.

    Phoenix Arms must have done something for the better.
    Just about every video review I watch on this pistol is positive.

    Hey, for a backyard plinker it works well.
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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_n View Post
    From what I remember, these were originally from a group of "manufacturers" known as the Ring of Fire in CA. Pot metal (Zinc alloy) and might allow 1 shot before they jammed. If you can get a complete magazine to fire, you are doing well. Dave_n
    Not only were they all from the same area, but they were all owned by the same family. The dad started with Raven, then Jennings, the daughter and her husband started cobra/davis, his sons started a couple companies that made similar guns under different names. Its actually an interesting story.

    As for them not running, not entirely true, if you douse them in wd40 every couple of mags they tend to run better. Though I have found widening the extractor slot, replacing the extractor spring, and polishing the inside of the slide will make them much more reliable. I was pretty shocked the last time I took my bryco .22 out, because its running nearly 100% with cheap ammo and no extra lube, and I don't remember it doing that before.

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    Default Re: Cheap but Great .22 Pistol - Pheonix Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Krichardson View Post
    My very first gun was a Raven .25 that I bought years ago.
    Mine was a Jennings j22.
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