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    I was charged with harrassment, if found or plead guilty will i lose my LTCF? Need legal advice, have Court 2 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lind View Post
    I was charged with harrassment, if found or plead guilty will i lose my LTCF? Need legal advice, have Court 2 days.
    Whats the actual charge?
    If you have an attorney fight that.
    A little charge like that, the court probably doesn't want to waste the time and resources with a trial.
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    § 2709. Harassment.

    (a) Offense defined.--A person commits the crime of harassment when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another, the person:

    (1) strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects the other person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same;

    (2) follows the other person in or about a public place or places;

    (3) engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which serve no legitimate purpose;

    (4) communicates to or about such other person any lewd, lascivious, threatening or obscene words, language, drawings or caricatures;

    (5) communicates repeatedly in an anonymous manner;

    (6) communicates repeatedly at extremely inconvenient hours; or

    (7) communicates repeatedly in a manner other than specified in paragraphs (4), (5) and (6).

    (a.1) Cyber harassment of a child.--

    (1) A person commits the crime of cyber harassment of a child if, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm, the person engages in a continuing course of conduct of making any of the following by electronic means directly to a child or by publication through an electronic social media service:

    (i) seriously disparaging statement or opinion about the child's physical characteristics, sexuality, sexual activity or mental or physical health or condition; or

    (ii) threat to inflict harm.

    (2) (i) If a juvenile is charged with a violation of paragraph (1), the judicial authority with jurisdiction over the violation shall give first consideration to referring the juvenile charged with the violation to a diversionary program under Pa.R.J.C.P. No. 312 (relating to Informal Adjustment) or No. 370 (relating to Consent Decree). As part of the diversionary program, the judicial authority may order the juvenile to participate in an educational program which includes the legal and nonlegal consequences of cyber harassment.

    (ii) If the person successfully completes the diversionary program, the juvenile's records of the charge of violating paragraph (1) shall be expunged as provided for under section 9123 (relating to juvenile records).

    (b) Stalking.--(Deleted by amendment).

    (b.1) Venue.--

    (1) An offense committed under this section may be deemed to have been committed at either the place at which the communication or communications were made or at the place where the communication or communications were received.

    (2) Acts indicating a course of conduct which occur in more than one jurisdiction may be used by any other jurisdiction in which an act occurred as evidence of a continuing pattern of conduct or a course of conduct.

    (3) In addition to paragraphs (1) and (2), an offense under subsection (a.1) may be deemed to have been committed at the place where the child who is the subject of the communication resides.

    (c) Grading.--

    (1) Except as provided under paragraph (3), an offense under subsection (a)(1), (2) or (3) shall constitute a summary offense.

    (2) An offense under subsection (a)(4), (5), (6) or (7) or (a.1) shall constitute a misdemeanor of the third degree.

    (3) The grading of an offense under subsection (a)(1), (2) or (3) shall be enhanced one degree if the person has previously violated an order issued under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) involving the same victim, family or household member.


    (d) False reports.--A person who knowingly gives false information to any law enforcement officer with the intent to implicate another under this section commits an offense under section 4906 (relating to false reports to law enforcement authorities).

    (e) Application of section.--This section shall not apply to constitutionally protected activity.

    (e.1) Course of conduct.--(Deleted by amendment).

    (f) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

    "Communicates." Conveys a message without intent of legitimate communication or address by oral, nonverbal, written or electronic means, including telephone, electronic mail, Internet, facsimile, telex, wireless communication or similar transmission.

    "Course of conduct." A pattern of actions composed of more than one act over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of conduct. The term includes lewd, lascivious, threatening or obscene words, language, drawings, caricatures or actions, either in person or anonymously. Acts indicating a course of conduct which occur in more than one jurisdiction may be used by any other jurisdiction in which an act occurred as evidence of a continuing pattern of conduct or a course of conduct.

    "Emotional distress." A temporary or permanent state of mental anguish.

    "Family or household member." Spouses or persons who have been spouses, persons living as spouses or who lived as spouses, parents and children, other persons related by consanguinity or affinity, current or former sexual or intimate partners or persons who share biological parenthood.

    "Seriously disparaging statement or opinion." A statement or opinion which is intended to and under the circumstances is reasonably likely to cause substantial emotional distress to a child of the victim's age and which produces some physical manifestation of the distress.





    (June 23, 1993, P.L.124, No.28, eff. imd.; Oct. 2, 1997, P.L.379, No.44, eff. 60 days; Dec. 15, 1999, P.L.915, No.59, eff. 60 days; Dec. 9, 2002, P.L.1759, No.218, eff. 60 days; Nov. 27, 2013, P.L.1061, No.91, eff. 60 days; July 10, 2015, P.L.140, No.26, eff. 60 days; Nov. 4, 2015, P.L.224, No.59, eff. 60 days)



    2015 Amendments. Act 26 amended subsecs. (c)(2) and (f) and added subsecs. (a.1) and (b.1)(3) and Act 59 amended subsec. (e). See the preamble to Act 59 of 2015 in the appendix to this title for special provisions relating to legislative intent.

    2013 Amendment. Act 91 amended subsec. (c) and added the def. of "family or household member" in subsec. (f).

    2002 Amendment. See sections 9 and 10 of Act 218 in the appendix to this title for special provisions relating to references to section 2709 and references to section 5504.

    Cross References. Section 2709 is referred to in sections 4954, 4955, 5708 of this title; section 3304 of Title 5 (Athletics and Sports); sections 6108, 6711 of Title 23 (Domestic Relations); sections 3573, 62A03 of Title 42 (Judiciary and Judicial Procedure).
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    You need to ascertain which pertains to your case with respect to long-range ramifications. Third degree misdemeanor is punishable by up to one year, but certain crimes carry enhanced penalties. Secondarily, the sheriff may decide you are not of good repute and lift the LTCF, which is your actual concern as I read it. If you are revoked, you have recourse, but if the sheriff maintains his/her discretion against you through the hearing, you are screwed until you convince him otherwise, or are in for a lot of $$$ and time in efforts to adjust the matter in your favor. IANAL
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    Default Re: Concealed carry permit and harassment charge

    Instead of wasting time here you should be talking to an attorney. You don't go to court without representation....ever.

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    Hey! I worked to post that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Hey! I worked to post that!
    Are you on retainer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    Instead of wasting time here you should be talking to an attorney. You don't go to court without representation....ever.
    Best quote ever!
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    Wish I'd said that :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    Are you on retainer?

    I fail to see how this is going to help him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    I fail to see how this is going to help him.

    It could be one of these:

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