ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

[bluetrane2028]

It appears the BATF has already made up their mind as evidenced by the questions they are asking. Are they really so ignorant of how a bump stock operates that they would seriously ask if there is a market for military and law enforcement applications? And are they really asking the public to do their research for them rather than do it themselves? The Agency has already been given the go ahead to interpret the law as Congress created it anyway it wants......which is the real tradegy. I applaud all who take the time to comment. I understand those who don’t. 5hey are going to have to define an unacceptable rate of fire and then start picking apart pieces of plastic and metal to ban for a long time. What a waste of taxpayers money.

I agree that it seems they have made up their mind. I believe they made up their mind before on M855 though, so it may not yet be inevitable.

I commented. I don't have a bump stock on any of my rifles, but stand firmly with those who do. I can move my trigger finger pretty darn quickly. Not Jerry Michulek fast, but fast enough. If "we" lose here, my finger may just be the next thing on the ban list.

[ExFlyinguy]

MAC (Military Arms Channel) is interviewing "former Chief of the Technology Brach at the ATF, Rick Vasquez" on YouTube live feed today at 3pm est. regarding the purposed rule change that we are discussing here.

[Emptymag]

MAC (Military Arms Channel) is interviewing "former Chief of the Technology Brach at the ATF, Rick Vasquez" on YouTube live feed today at 3pm est. regarding the purposed rule change that we are discussing here.

How does one view that?

[ExFlyinguy]

How does one view that?

I'll post a link when they go live. Not sure if one needs an account.

[ExFlyinguy]

*LIVE NOW*

If you can't watch it live it should be available later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMw0g7m8IVE

[Hodgie]

Thanks for posting it, I’m going to have to tune in after it’s done and uploaded to YouTube.

[ExFlyinguy]

Aside from MAC & GOA urging comments to the ATF, it escapes me as to why they aren't encouraging messages to Trump. IMHO Trump needs to shut this shit down RFN.

I just wrote to Trump via the White House contact me page :https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

This is what I wrote fwiw: "Mr. President, You ran on a platform of being pro-gun and 2nd Amendment friendly. Right now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) is considering changing the definition of a machine gun to INCLUDE devices previously deemed as lawful devices that did NOT constitute making a machine gun. This agency does NOT have the authority to legislate, or change the definitions that congress has spelled out via the law. Bump firing a semi-automatic firearm does not require a device. Therefore the ATF is attempting to regulate with the same authority as law, something that's as simple as using a technique.

I urge you and your Attorney General to put a stop to this immediately. Please don't follow in the foot steps of President Obama. Make the members of Congress take this issue on."

[Hodgie]

Aside from MAC & GOA urging comments to the ATF, it escapes me as to why they aren't encouraging messages to Trump. IMHO Trump needs to shut this shit down RFN.

I just wrote to Trump via the White House contact me page :https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

This is what I wrote fwiw: "Mr. President, You ran on a platform of being pro-gun and 2nd Amendment friendly. Right now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) is considering changing the definition of a machine gun to INCLUDE devices previously deemed as lawful devices that did NOT constitute making a machine gun. This agency does NOT have the authority to legislate, or change the definitions that congress has spelled out via the law. Bump firing a semi-automatic firearm does not require a device. Therefore the ATF is attempting to regulate with the same authority as law, something that's as simple as using a technique.

I urge you and your Attorney General to put a stop to this immediately. Please don't follow in the foot steps of President Obama. Make the members of Congress take this issue on."

Do you mind if I use most of what you wrote to do the same?

[Hodgie]

The live chat is over but the recording has been posted.

[dkf]

I'm watching the MAC video with the former ATF guy. It is not sounding good at all.

You can write Trump if you want. Frankly I don't think he gives two shits. He will swallow whatever BS the NRA tells him and the NRA is one entity behind all this.