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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    Quote Originally Posted by flygrimm View Post
    I could swear that it said around 72000 but when I look now it is just shy of 18000. Must have fat fingered or looked at a different subject. Anyway looks like about 33500 received and about 18000 actually posted. Nowhere near the amount of comments when they wanted to ban SS109/M855.

    It took 12 days for my comment to actually post and that was only after an email to whomever to get it fixed.

    Stuart
    Itís because the NRA was mobilizing the efforts of its membership during the ammo ban comment period. This time, the NRA is in the other corner. The NRA membership now is much more diverse than it was back then. They have made a calculated move to go for national repciprocity using bump stocks as the sacrificial lamb. And they are even willing to expand NICS to get it because they feel most will forgive them if they get NR. The silence of the mainstream media on gun control is evidence of something going on behind closed doors.

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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    TTP again. Please guys if you haven't commented, do so. Screw the NRA and whatever agenda they want. This could be worse than any legislation coming down the pipe

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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    Are they reviewing these posts first? It's taking forever.

    I also noticed the lack of any media coverage...makes one wonder.

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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    Quote Originally Posted by P89 View Post
    Are they reviewing these posts first? It's taking forever.

    I also noticed the lack of any media coverage...makes one wonder.
    Yes they have to assign an agent or employee to read each comment which is why then they get 300k plus regarding M855 they listen. Hopefully this 30k plus will be enough to get the same results.


    FYI: This has already begun on a state level.

    http://firearmdaily.com/hawaii-consi...ification-ban/

    New legislation in Hawaii that would impact the rights of law abiding gun owners was recently introduced to the Senate.

    Democrat Senator Karl Rhoads (D-13) is backing laws that would effectively ban firearm modifications, even when done by law abiding citizens. The proposed legislation, SB 2046 is not law yet and Hawaii gun owners and those interested in preserving Second Amendment rights for United States citizens are urged to get in contact with the senate today to add your voice to the opposition. The NRA offers a fast and straightforward way to connect with the correct senate office to have your voice heard when it comes to SB 2046.

    Similar in terms and restrictions to the federal bill proposed by Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), SB 2046 aims to remove the rights of Hawaii’s gun owners and impose harsh penalties on those found in violation. Under the proposed law, it would be a crime to have a modified weapon that accelerates the firing capacity and speed of a weapon. Owning, bartering, gifting, selling or otherwise transferring this type of weapon would be a crime; so would owning or possessing it.

    This is a broad, far-reaching bill and local gun advocates fear that it would be used to infringe further upon the rights of law abiding citizens in the state of Hawaii. “Modifications” are broadly defined, and many of the modifications listed are done by gun owners to improve weapons for hunting, self-defense or even to accommodate a disability.

    This is not the first anti-gun bill introduced in Hawaii recently. In spring 2017, Senate Bill 898 passed unanimously; this bill would remove an individual’s Second Amendment rights via an ex-parte warrant proceeding. This would allow officials to seize firearms from an individual not for criminal or mental health issues, but because of “probable cause.”

    While the bill allows an effected individual to have a hearing to restore their rights, the process is lengthy and costly. This bill directly targets legal, law abiding citizens, not criminals and sets aside traditional rules to grab firearms from individuals without a specific reason.

    Senate Bill 898 was also vague enough to impact a wide range of gun owners and to be employed at the whim of officials. With these new bills and legislative initiatives, Hawaii continues to become an unfriendly state for gun owners, and joins California as a state with an aggressive stance towards legal gun owners.

    It is too late to do anything about Bill 898, but Hawaii residents are urged to contact local Senators and legislators to voice concerns about and opposition to SB2046. There is still time to preserve the Second Amendment rights of Hawaii citizens and take a stand against those who would remove those rights permanently.

    ~ 1776 Christian

    Isn't this exactly what the NRA wanted when they kept pushing the ATF to review bump stocks and rate increasing devices? Guess they never thought it would be exploited on the state level or that it could/would effect the Timney Trigger they put in their grand pappy's 03/A3 sporter deer rifle.

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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    Quote Originally Posted by flygrimm View Post
    I could swear that it said around 72000 but when I look now it is just shy of 18000. Must have fat fingered or looked at a different subject. Anyway looks like about 33500 received and about 18000 actually posted. Nowhere near the amount of comments when they wanted to ban SS109/M855.

    It took 12 days for my comment to actually post and that was only after an email to whomever to get it fixed.

    Stuart
    It's all good was just hoping to confirm your number

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    Default Re: ATF taking comments regarding their ability to redefine what is and is not a MG.

    Comment period ended at 11:59 last night (1/25).

    35,867
    Comments Received

    24,000 plus already posted.

    https://www.regulations.gov/docket?D=ATF-2018-0001

    Thanks to all for your efforts in posting, sharing and keeping this thread bumped.

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