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    I recently was on probation for a paraphernalia charge. (wrong place wrong time) i do not smoke weed. with that being said I was on probation without verdict. meaning once completed it will be exspunged off my record in 6-9 months. about 2 weeks ago i finished probation. that was in indiana county. I also had a disorderly conduct in Cambria county that probation was completed for. My question is why am I on research? I appealed the ccp. Also a gun attorney told me that if I was denied they could press charges and give me a felony? I only have a misdemeanor and a summary offense. I was told by my probation officer i would be able to buy/inherit and carry.

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    Probation officers are not lawyers. And it's advisable that you retain a good lawyer

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    Sounds like a lifestyle change is in order to correct problems encountered with firearm ownership. Remember this, you are asking the government to let you exercise your 2nd amendment rights. If they do not approve of your behavior they can deny you your rights. It's not Constitutional but the Constitution no longer applies as we've seen in the repetitive way it gets trampled upon or completely ignored. Rights are only guaranteed to those that are powerful enough to affirm them.
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell2511 View Post
    I recently was on probation for a paraphernalia charge. (wrong place wrong time) i do not smoke weed. with that being said I was on probation without verdict. meaning once completed it will be exspunged off my record in 6-9 months. about 2 weeks ago i finished probation. that was in indiana county. I also had a disorderly conduct in Cambria county that probation was completed for. My question is why am I on research? I appealed the ccp. Also a gun attorney told me that if I was denied they could press charges and give me a felony? I only have a misdemeanor and a summary offense. I was told by my probation officer i would be able to buy/inherit and carry.
    In Pa, http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...n=17&subsctn=0

    Section 17. Probation Without Verdict.--Except as provided
    in clause (1) of this subsection, the court may place a person
    on probation without verdict if the person pleads nolo
    contendere or guilty to any nonviolent offense under this act
    and the person proves he is drug dependent.

    So how did you pull this off?
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    why exactly do i need a good lawyer?

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    thats just how it happened. i called PICS today and i told them what i said here. the person at PICS told me that if thats all that is on my record (which it is) they said it should be a simple fix.

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    Can i get a felony for trying to get a conceal carry permit though? That seems like a little much

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    Paraphernalia plus a seperate disorderly conduct charge spells trouble to me. As Jen said, sounds like a lifestyle change is in order. I'm as big a proponent of 2A that you can find, but you sound like trouble my friend.
    Hope I'm wrong, however I'll echo the good lawyer advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell2511 View Post
    Can i get a felony for trying to get a conceal carry permit though? That seems like a little much
    Again as stated before, if you have to ask, you should be talking to a lawyer

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    Upon fulfillment of the terms and conditions of
    probation, the court shall discharge such person and dismiss the
    proceedings against him. Discharge and dismissal shall be
    without adjudication of guilt and shall not constitute a
    conviction for any purpose whatever, including the penalties
    imposed for second or subsequent convictions: Provided, That
    probation without verdict shall be available to any person only
    once: And further provided, That notwithstanding any other
    provision of this act, the prosecuting attorney or the court,
    and the council shall keep a list of those persons placed on
    probation without verdict, which list may only be used to
    determine the eligibility of persons for probation without
    verdict and the names on such lists may be used for no other
    purpose whatsoever.

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