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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Quote Originally Posted by Krichardson View Post
    Exactly....my answer would have been,"who do you think you are for you to think that I have to answer to you?"
    Yes, the correct response is "I do not owe you an explanation for my behavior and do not wish to speak with you, if you do not leave me alone I will call the cops"
    AMERICA'S PUSSY = GRABBED

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Quote Originally Posted by priell3 View Post
    I hated Shoprite. The clients were on par with Wal-Mart shoppers.
    Interesting observation. In my observation and I have delivered to both stores, every store in every location is different and attracts a different client base.

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    From the tone and manner with which the lady asked the first question, I knew what this was going to devolve into.

    After open carrying for about 7 years now, almost every day, I can tell from the first word where the conversation will go. I've had genuinely interested/curious folks. Some even asked me about gun ownership and whether they should go that route themselves. I've also had people tell me they feel safer seeing my handgun. I've also (much more rarely) had drama queen d-bags who 1) know that I'm not a threat to them 2) hate me because I have a gun 3) feel perfectly safe being angry and confrontational toward me because they know I'm not a bad guy.

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Are you a cop?
    Let's see how many answers I've used that I can recall:
    Fuck you! Why would you accuse me of that?
    Not right this minute.
    Not today. Not this week, I'm on vacation.
    Why? Do you need one?
    Why, what did you do? Grab the gun while asking that one and move forward aggressively. Fucks with their mind.

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Quote Originally Posted by American1776 View Post
    Out with the family (kid and wife) for Sunday groceries. Open carrying the S&W model 57 .41 magnum (6 inch barrel, basketweave Safariland duty rig).

    In a crowded section of the frozen isle, an older woman blurts out to me:

    Woman: "Are you a police officer"?
    Me: No, I'm not.
    Woman: "Then why are you carrying a gun"? (slightly elevated tone)
    Me: "To protect my family and me"
    Woman: (raised voice) "FROM WHO!!!"
    Me: Hopefully, no one.

    At this point, my wife leaned over to her and said something. The woman's face went ashen and she said: "I am".

    I asked my wife what she said, and she told the woman: "Leave us alone now".

    I was half expecting a local PD to be called, but nothing else happened.
    So, what did your wife say to her?

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Earlier today, I was eating lunch out with my wife and daughter, wearing the same rig. I heard a mom talking to her young son, saying "Well, not all police officers wear uniforms". This does look like a 'Rick Grimes' rig. On the other hand, the only LEO I've seen with a revolver was at Philly International, and he looked about 60 years old.

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    My wife said to her: "Leave us alone now".

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    The nerve that some people have is just amazing.
    "The time for empty talk is over....now is the hour of action" DJT

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    As my employer has extremely anti-gun policies I have trained myself to answer
    questions like that with "I am not at liberty to discuss my employment."

    I do not carry, OC or CC, when wearing anything that would identify me as an employee,
    such as an access badge, clothing, etc. The company has never made such a stipulation
    a part of their policies, I just want to make sure I keep things separate.
    My employment would truly be none of her business and it's not really the question she wanted
    to ask in the first place anyway so when I sense the tone right from the start it's always a good
    idea to knock them out of their OODA loop at the first chance and take the lead in the encounter.

    I even used it once with a PA State Trooper, successfully, simply by making a one-liner that had
    us both smiling. I knew he was going to say something and as soon as he opened his mouth I
    interrupted and spoke first. Worked like a charm. Even his partner laughed.

    *rep to OP, and to Streaker for Dennis and me!



    OODA Loop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop
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    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

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    Default Re: Negative encounter at the Shop Rite

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    As my employer has extremely anti-gun policies I have trained myself to answer
    questions like that with "I am not at liberty to discuss my employment."

    I do not carry, OC or CC, when wearing anything that would identify me as an employee,
    such as an access badge, clothing, etc. The company has never made such a stipulation
    a part of their policies, I just want to make sure I keep things separate.
    My employment would truly be none of her business and it's not really the question she wanted
    to ask in the first place anyway so when I sense the tone right from the start it's always a good
    idea to knock them out of their OODA loop at the first chance and take the lead in the encounter.

    I even used it once with a PA State Trooper, successfully, simply by making a one-liner that had
    us both smiling. I knew he was going to say something and as soon as he opened his mouth I
    interrupted and spoke first. Worked like a charm. Even his partner laughed.

    *rep to OP, and to Streaker for Dennis and me!
    Thanks. My employer, too, is as anti-gun as it gets (I'm a professor). If anyone at work even found out I shoot guns at a range, let alone own them, let alone CARRY THEM OPENLY, I'd be the most hated person on campus. They'd find a way to get rid of me too. Luckily, I my workplace is over an hours drive away.

    I, too, never wear anything that would identify my place of work when OCing.

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