Read this before you come to Jersey......

[Sgt.K]

I guess when one lives in parts of the country where state after state accept their LTCF/CWP it's hard to imagine a state that locks up people for simply exercising this right.

I think this right here has a lot to do with it.

[Hodgie]

I think this right here has a lot to do with it.

Who would have thought that your federally protected rights are not federally protected in America.

[fallenleader]

Who would have thought that your god given/natural rights are not federally protected in America.

fify?
the legislators don't seem to care, i believe kamala harris and another anti-gun just joined the senate judiciary, bill will probably never leave the committee now.
start ringing their phones i guess... harass them.

[gummy jones]

She just needs to plead that half ignorance half no intent (wink wink) with a touch of negligence angle that hilary clinton has mastered.

[Sgt.K]

Who would have thought that your federally protected rights are not federally protected in America.

Who would have thought that your god given/natural rights are not federally protected in America.

fify?

Both right. They are natural rights that are (technically) federally protected.

The error comes when someone calls them federally granted rights...

[PhillySoldier]

I wondered that as well, especially how people get into security line with a gun in their pocket at the airport. I believe when you live in Texas, Middle PA or areas where you carry 24/7---365 for years it's like any other part or item you take with you anywhere. Heck, I know NJ is horrible, I work there daily and after being home for Christmas break and used to carrying daily for 11 straight days, I walked out of the house with my gun in pocket.....got a mile down the road as headed to work and realized "crap, I still have my gun"!

It happens. What I don't understand are the people that are completely ignorant of states that have made it VERY clear that people will be thrown in jail if caught with a firearm. I guess when one lives in parts of the country where state after state accept their LTCF/CWP it's hard to imagine a state that locks up people for simply exercising this right.

Back in the 90's I worked as a correctional officer in philadelphia. The prison was minutes away from NJ. The prisons would definitely put out to us to stay out of NJ everytime a new CO or cop got arrested over there and I cant tell ya how many times we'd be out after work and decide to go over to a club in NJ and would be there for awhile and then have that oh chit moment realizing we still had our edc on us and would go hide in our trunks. And back then (before computers and cell phones) we never even new about finer details such as hollow points being illegal, max limits of other states etc

[Parrisk]

Hell the hunter that flew from Alaska to Russia with a revolver got in less trouble then and mom who crossed the river from Philadelphia to NJ with her disclosed .380 in her purse

[fallenleader]

Hell the hunter that flew from Alaska to Russia with a revolver got in less trouble then and mom who crossed the river from Philadelphia to NJ with her disclosed .380 in her purse

this post made me realize that if i capsize on deleware and am dragged to nj by rescuers, i go to prison.

[lts1ow]

Other than Open Carry does this effect anything else for those without an LTCF? Such as transporting within the state?

What do you mean?

[lts1ow]

Without an LTCF you wouldnt be able to Open Carry currently. Would that also go for someone "transporting" such as driving through the state, driving to from the gun range etc

Think you may be mixing threads up, NJ isn't in a SOE.

Well, arguably it is, but, officially its utopia.