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August 15th, 2018, 09:20 AM #171Active Member
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August 19th, 2018, 05:19 PM #172
Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
found this topic while looking for info on legality of and recommendations for non-thc cbd oils to see if anyone had been using them for pain management.
my wife is crippled when her pain acts up and is prohibited from taking NSAID's due to other conditions, blood thinners for yet other conditions and wants to avoid opioid's which when occassionally taken post-op in the past, served little effect other than the chance of addiction and drowsiness.
170 interesting posts going back and forth but i did want to add...
just like the major gun legislations dating back to the 1930's and earlier, the drug regulations were all passed and created by democrat controlled, be it majority or super majority, congresses.
whenever they have a majority in the house and senate, they take the authority to violate the constitution and frequently do.
iirc, the only exception was alcohol prohibition coming from republicans no better than the dems.
due to them usurping authority, we now have a "drug crisis", vast swaths of gangs and, from the sounds of it, the bulk of the mexican side of the border is all cartels. all funded due to prohibitions. meanwhile people who choose to escape their reality are still obtaining, with relative ease, these prohibited substances and dying from the consumption mostly due to products laced with stronger or "dirty" additives, all trying to produce at the lowest cost, something we've seen legitimate companies in all fields caught doing. the main difference is when your caught cutting your product, the FTC or similar is there for the consumer. but when your selling out of an old buick in an alley...
well, just don't get caught walking around with any unusual sums of money. it might be charged with being connected to a crime and confiscated by the government, you'll never see it again, regardless if you've ever committed a crime before, since or during. don't expect a trial either, plebe.
what i have noticed on cbd products is that 3rd party labratory reports are common. i've not dug into it enough to see if those reports are legitimate.
anyone else know of medications for chronic pain from rumatiod arthritis and fibromyalgia?
she's seen a few over the last two years and dr's still aren't 100% whats wrong with her but sometimes she's barely hobbling around with a walker.
we'd prefer to avoid SSRI's(some are used to treat pain), cancer causing immune suppressents and losing our rights.
Edit: forgot to mention, tylenol doesn't cut it. a hot soak will help for a few hours sometimes. other times random joints will swell up all red and lock up, she can't take steroids because they raise your blood sugar and diabetes isn't a goal.There is no way to make it out alive...
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August 19th, 2018, 08:08 PM #173
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I don’t get this. Everybody knows heroin is very addictive. Who would listen to any source that claims opioids aren’t addictive? This whole line of bs drives my crazy. Fabrication of a new war on drugs just to crank up the machine once again. Why don’t they just put us all on a giant theme park ride that spins us around emptying our pockets of everything? It would be much faster and more humane.
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September 6th, 2018, 10:48 PM #175Grand Member
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September 6th, 2018, 11:03 PM #176Grand Member
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Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
CBD is legal federally and in PA. CBD is legal as it complies with the recent federal farm bills requiring that THC can only be present in the minutest trace amounts defined by Fed law; anecdotally too low to light up a drug test.
Go here and watch the vids on CBD: https://www.cbdschool.com/
This guy doesn't shill for CBD brands as the other 99% Yootoobers do in their wild-ass vids. Just the "facts" in 5-10min vids.
"Vadeem" the "CBD Professor" discusses CBD extract methods, whole plant extract vs. stems/seeds, full-spectrum vs. isolates for the full entourage effect, CBD from hemp vs. CBD from cannabis, known legalities, oils vs vapes, and so forth.
Is CBD useful? Keep in mind that outside of yootoob claims, little to no solid "big pharma" FDA-type tests have been done to prove/disprove curative effects, dosing levels, etc. Some data has been coming out of the UK and Israel, but "not invented here" writes the rules in the USA when it comes to the demonic plant.All of my guns are lubed with BACON GREASE.
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September 7th, 2018, 05:21 AM #177Active Member
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Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
There was already a previous problem in that the state police were taking all those that applied for a mj card and updating the pics system w the info. There was an article on the lawyer page Joshua Prince about it. I think it has been settled that they arent allowed to do that but im not positive
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September 8th, 2018, 10:30 AM #178Active Member
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Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
I have a family member with Stage 4 cancer who meets FDA opioid guidelines, yet they cut his pain meds as well. The cancer is mostly controlled; the pain, however, is not. When politicians make the decisions instead of doctors, this is the collateral damage left behind.
Now we want to do essentially the same thing with marijuana. It’s not only bad policy; it shows we are not capable of learning from our mistakes as a society.
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September 8th, 2018, 04:51 PM #179Grand Member
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Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
What people do not seem to realize is that CBD was approved as a drug by the FDA back in 1985. This was made synthetically and then in June, the FDA approved the same compound (isolated from specific strains) as a drug. It would appear that somebody at the FDA did not do a due diligence search on chemical structures as the FDA Drugs book shows the earlier one.
Before anyone jumps in and says that one is different from the other, such a comment is not correct aside from the very faint possibility of an infinitesimal amount of THC in the June 2018 version. The two drugs are as identical to each other as Vitamin C made in a lab (as most is) and Vitamin C absorbed from eating citrus. So now there is another "kicker" in the equation. If an MD prescribes CBD (even for an off-label use) then no MJ card is necessary and as far as I know, no record of such a prescription goes anywhere under HIPPA laws. Dave_n
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Re: Medical marijuana and license to carry
Companies that are selling legal CBD in whatever form - buds, oils, isolates, dabs, et al - have to submit to frequent lab tests to insure they do not exceed the Fed limit on THC content. To do otherwise invokes the wrath of Khan; something they will not do to jeopardize such a super-profitable business.
Top-quality full spectrum CBD is readily mail-ordered and no one is the wiser. It is even shipped with enclosed summary copies of the Fed law and the lab results for the purchased batch showing the various CBDs and THC levels it contains.
As I understand it, the latest dispensary up in Clarion now sells CBD products in addition to medical-grade MJ, no card needed for CBD.
Regardless, CBD supplements to a daily regimen are a marathon, not a sprint. It's not going to grow the hand back that you lost in an accident, but maybe after a months use you wont walk like one of Jerry's kids for the first 10mins after waking up in the morning.All of my guns are lubed with BACON GREASE.
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