Medical marijuana and license to carry

[free]

150yrs ago , some states said it was OK to own people.

The Federal Gov't said nope!

Remember how that turned out?

Yep. The government violated the constitution and forced States to bend to its will. Hooray!

[free]

I qualify....but I’m not surrendering my ability to protect myself and loved ones by giving up my conceal carry permit.

I qualify too. But I don't want to be a pothead, regardless of what a doctor thinks it will do for me otherwise.

[abner13]

So where does the line get drawn?

Fed law say you can't have weed. States say you can.

Fed law say you can have fullauto/semiauto firearms. Some states/locales say you can't.

When the Feds pass laws we don't like , we claim state sovereignty or states rights. When the state passes laws we don't like , we seek Federal intervention , Constitution/Bill of Rights/Supreme Court.


"As a rule , man's a fool!
When it's hot , he wants it cool.
When it's cool , he wants it hot.
Always wants it what it's not!

[free]

So where does the line get drawn?

Fed law say you can't have weed. States say you can.

Fed law say you can have fullauto/semiauto firearms. Some states/locales say you can't.

The line is drawn wherever the entity with the biggest pencil draws it.

[Steeltrap]

I qualify....but I’m not surrendering my ability to protect myself and loved ones by giving up my conceal carry permit. I’ve been a model citizen for over half a century and now some card would make me a danger? Sheesh!

We are in the same "boat" so to speak as I would qualify as well. However, I much prefer clear thinking and have and will continue to tolerate pain in order to have clarity of thought. OTOH, should the pain become unbearable.....like anyone else, I would reconsider.

FWIW

[Dave_n]

What may or may not be realized is that there are already 2 (almost 3) legal drugs that can be prescribed by any licensed US physician that contain the "active" ingredients of MJ (THC and Cannabidiol). There are two others available in Europe with clinical trials being set up for the US approval. These do not fall under the Federal prohibition nor the 4473 statements since they are FDA approved and licensed for specific diseases. Since there are no "taxes" to be collected by PA/Wolf, nobody wants to talk about them. The current controversies all are based on "more money for the State to use". Simply check the FDA listings or the PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) for further information. The other point that people ignore is that you have absolutely no idea what you are buying at any of these "dispensaries" as the materials provided have no quality control. Dave_n

[Williamsmith]

What may or may not be realized is that there are already 2 (almost 3) legal drugs that can be prescribed by any licensed US physician that contain the "active" ingredients of MJ (THC and Cannabidiol). There are two others available in Europe with clinical trials being set up for the US approval. These do not fall under the Federal prohibition nor the 4473 statements since they are FDA approved and licensed for specific diseases. Since there are no "taxes" to be collected by PA/Wolf, nobody wants to talk about them. The current controversies all are based on "more money for the State to use". Simply check the FDA listings or the PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) for further information. The other point that people ignore is that you have absolutely no idea what you are buying at any of these "dispensaries" as the materials provided have no quality control. Dave_n

What are the names of these drugs?

[bornin69]

I happen to disagree with you on the quality issue. There’s no way a state as uptight as PA isn’t doing stringent testing.

[bornin69]

[QUOTE=Steeltrap;3701447] However, I much prefer clear thinking and have and will continue to tolerate pain in order to have clarity of thought. OTOH, should the pain become unbearable
I can’t say for sure, but I believe that a lot of the strains for MM don’t make you “high” or necessarily impaired. While I’m sure that you can find those things, a lot of people like me didn’t want it for anything like that, I just feel that it has to be better than narcotics all the time. I believe the common misconception now is that we all want get high, I just don’t want to be in pain all the time .

[Ricochet]

When it asks "Are you an unlawful user of drugs ect." doesn't that question forfeit your 5th amendment right from self incrimination?
Seems like you're giving up one right on the application to practice another.
I dont know, just a thought.