More rounds vs. more power (e.g. 9mm vs. .45)

[Smilez226]

.22 will do more internal damage then most people think. I would pick 9mm all day over .45.

.45 will be the next obsolete caliber for self defense. With so many great self defense loads in 9 all these brands are making, there won’t be a real need to carry around a heavy 45. It will be just lumber jack joes who think .45 is a god sent that will be carrying them around in serveral years. IMO anyways.

[abner13]

More holes take more time to stop all the leaks.

[danhr]

Use 9mm if you want to kill the man

Use 45 if you want to kill the man and his soul

Use 10mm if you want to kill the man, his soul, and his grandmother.




On a serious note: Take a force on force class and you will quickly come to a conclusion of ammo capacity vs round power

[STBear]

Use what you shoot the best. Vital hits matter.

[Justin///M]

The damage potential only matters if you hit the target.

I'll take more opportunities to hit the target.

FPNI

[ExFlyinguy]

FPNI

ISHTUGTDP (I shouldn't have to use google to decipher posts)

[unclejumbo]

Yeah, oldest debate in the world, but let's have a go.

My take:

Went shooting at the family farm with my brother.

We went to wally-world and bought a ton of cabbages for targets.

I had a 9mm, he had a .45

With my 9mm, I could take big ol' chunks off the cabbages. They'd look pretty ragged when I was done with 15 rds. magazine. Very unhappy/inoperable 'bad guy'... but still 'intact'.

He could then hit what was left with a single .45 round and they'd just flat-out explode into smithereens.

Debate aside, that's why my daily-carry is now a .45 with 8 rounds vs. a 9mm with 15 rounds.

Just sayin.

Separate note: We also shot rifles vs. the pistols. It only took 2-3 hits of .223 to utterly decimate the cabbages far past what 10+ rounds of 9mm pistol could do. Interesting POV on velocity vs. mass.

Good to know for the next time I face attacking cabbages.

As far as stopping a human threat, handgun rounds have been studied to death. And the findings are conclusive that all comparable handgun rounds (hollow points, ball etc.) appropriate for self defense, have approximately the same performance. The only things that determine stopping power are shot placement and attitude of the assailant.

A CNS hit will end the attack immediately. Everything else will allow the assailant to continue an assault if he so chooses for a length of time to be determined depending on what was hit.

[Krichardson]

My Glock 21 gives me both....fifteen rounds of acp lead poisoning.

[danhr]

Good to know for the next time I face attacking cabbages.

As far as stopping a human threat, handgun rounds have been studied to death. And the findings are conclusive that all comparable handgun rounds (hollow points, ball etc.) appropriate for self defense, have approximately the same performance. The only things that determine stopping power are shot placement and attitude of the assailant.

A CNS hit will end the attack immediately. Everything else will allow the assailant to continue an assault if he so chooses for a length of time to be determined depending on what was hit.

[Bang]

If I had to shoot a threat, I would not be shooting to kill. I would be shooting to stop the threat as immediately as possible. If death occurs, whether instantly or eventually, it is a collateral outcome to my intent.