New Ruger PC Carbine

**Ricochet** · December 28th, 2017, 08:14 PM

Looks like a cool gun.
I just dont like regular stocks.
Maybe if they had a collapsible variant.

**Noah_Zark** · December 28th, 2017, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hodgie

Let me guess Jeff said it’s a Dandy little carbine?

Reading the closed captioning, Jeff said it was "a danny little carbon."

Noah

**Democrat Gun Owner** · December 28th, 2017, 09:09 PM

I just might have to put this "dandy little carbine" on my things to get in 2018.

Great...the list is getting longer, and it isn't even 2018 yet.

So far, I'm wanting an LCP II and a yet to be determined O/U shotgun (and a personal AED

)

Now, this gun. Decisions...decisions...decisions.

**Hodgie** · December 28th, 2017, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ricochet

Looks like a cool gun.
I just dont like regular stocks.
Maybe if they had a collapsible variant.

Give it a year and Magpul will resolve that for you.

**Nate7667** · December 28th, 2017, 10:36 PM

-Ugly.
~Delayed blow back, I'd like to shoot it with a can to see...
-Priced too high for what it is, take-down or not.
+Takes Glock mags.

If Ruger is/were thinking, make it fit ALL 10/22 accessories, like stocks to get rid of some ugly points.
Seriously, I'd like to see the guts to see what delayed bolt is doing.

**P89** · December 28th, 2017, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Hodgie

Give it a year and Magpul will resolve that for you.

They never resolved it with the original. There is little available for that carbine.
Unless you start hacking on it and I'm not going that route.
Some people have pulled off a folder that looks decent enough.

**Emptymag** · December 28th, 2017, 10:54 PM

I like that it is what it is - a rifle - not a rifle that's pretending to be an AR15.

Once they start trying to be something else, it just becomes silly - if you want an AR15, buy an AR15 - don't try to modify something that was never meant to be into one.

I prefer the classic lines of the original PC9 carbine, but this one is not really that bad. Could have been a lot more ugly for sure.

**Hodgie** · December 28th, 2017, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I like that it is what it is - a rifle - not a rifle that's pretending to be an AR15.

Once they start trying to be something else, it just becomes silly - if you want an AR15, buy an AR15 - don't try to modify something that was never meant to be into one.

I prefer the classic lines of the original PC9 carbine, but this one is not really that bad. Could have been a lot more ugly for sure.

I agree.

**dkf** · December 28th, 2017, 11:56 PM

Surprised the hell out of me they made it to accept Glock mags. Sure would have thought Ruger would have been Ruger and came up with another overpriced magazine that is not compatible with many or any of their other pistols.

**Ronin** · December 29th, 2017, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by jthrelf

Sub2k also has had bad reports from lefties experiencing gas to the face, has its charging handle in an awkward spot, and the stock (really just a tube) leaves much to be desired. Also you cannot fold the Sub2k with optics.

On paper this Ruger is all around way better. And if everyone can replicate Jeff's groups then the accuracy is there too.

Have you ever owned or shot a Sub2k? I'm left handed and have zero issues shooting my wife's Sub2k. Folding it with optics is not an issue if you use a QD optic mount. My wife runs a Holosun red dot on her gun mounted to a $10 QD UTG 1" riser. It takes a handful of seconds to remove the sight, fold the gun, and mount it to the underside of the handguard. Deploying is just as easy and it maintains zero. MCARBO is working on a flip style mount for the Sub2k that will make folding and deployment even easier.