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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    The level of ugly in this is all the way up at the "What were they thinking?" point.
    That's usually the case with Ruger...the beauty is in that fact it'll never break.

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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    The original PC9...


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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Quote Originally Posted by zachomega View Post
    Too expensive when you factor the sub2k and highpoint.

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    I would think that, once the novelty/new-product premium wears off, the street price should be in the low $400-range, pretty close to that of Sub2000. Bonus point: perhaps the increased competition would force the Sub2000's price lower... one can hope,

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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    I think part of the reason it's "ugly" is the result of the break down feature removing the upper covered area over the barrel as well as the addition of functional rails and a muzzle that is threaded.

    All of which add function over form to some extent.
    Some people just like to bitch. I don't see a lot of valid things to bitch about on this one - unless it's not even remotely the type of carbine you want.
    Last edited by Emptymag; December 28th, 2017 at 06:25 PM. Reason: "muzzle", not "mule". LOL. My Z key isn't working right!

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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Price too high for you? Fuck, the MSRP is the same as what the old, used PC9s are currently selling for online.

    Maybe that will help drive down the pricing of the originals!

    Go buy a 10 round, Hi-Point toy if you don't want to pay for a real carbine.

    And street price for the new sub-2000 is around $400, which is a better PCC
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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortytwo View Post
    I would think that, once the novelty/new-product premium wears off, the street price should be in the low $400-range, pretty close to that of Sub2000. Bonus point: perhaps the increased competition would force the Sub2000's price lower... one can hope,
    ^This!!^ Plus there will likely be different versions/varieties that may have different stocks (more tacticool?). Look at how the American Rifle has taken off.
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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    And street price for the new sub-2000 is around $400, which is a better PCC
    Ruger's availability and street record is way beyond that of Keltec. That along would make the decision for me.

    The real competition for this IMO is the FX-9 and ATI milsport. But this takes down and is hundreds less. Again, made by a more reputable company.

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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Yes almost reminds me of the Marlin Camp Nine !,Definitley would try one on for size and since I love my Glocks a big factor in its favor !

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    Default Re: New Ruger PC Carbine

    Looks like Ruger is going to release a bunch this year. Looks like a new pistol too. "Security 9" it's called.

    https://www.ruger.com/products/security9/models.html
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