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  1. #11
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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    Remember the BMF Activator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAaapbhF5OY
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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    Indeed.
    How can an accessory be considered a machine gun?
    add a motor to a crank firing devise it becomes an illegal mg because the switch that controls the motor becomes the trigger, the loop in a shoelace becomes the trigger when used to fire faster, springs added to a bumpfire stock make it an illegal mg (atkins accelerator), the reason bumpfire stocks passed muster is because your finger is hitting the trigger and you have to actively make it work. also drop in auto sears and lightning liks are illegal mgs unless registered before 86, so there are long lines of "acessories" being illegal.

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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    Quote Originally Posted by USMC3531 View Post
    add a motor to a crank firing devise it becomes an illegal mg because the switch that controls the motor becomes the trigger, the loop in a shoelace becomes the trigger when used to fire faster, springs added to a bumpfire stock make it an illegal mg (atkins accelerator), the reason bumpfire stocks passed muster is because your finger is hitting the trigger and you have to actively make it work. also drop in auto sears and lightning liks are illegal mgs unless registered before 86, so there are long lines of "acessories" being illegal.
    Well, that may be correct legally.
    But I dont think its right.
    It just opens the door up to the ATF having a field day with things it can ban.
    The NFA and GCA needs to be completely done away with or at the very least rewritten to allow of common folk the ability to own MG's again.
    Im sick of this bullshit.
    The 2nd Amendment was written so people can go deer hunting.
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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    We need to stand agains this insanity and authoritarianism!
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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    If they make these decrees I will be very tempted to bump fire on private land- and it might not necessarily be with a bump stock. I will not comply with illegal decrees, especially from a bureaucracy who thinks it has the 'right' to 'interpret' it's 'vision' of the law.

    All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. -Article I, US Constitution
    This is happening under the Trump administration and a Republican AG, not a Democrat one, not Obama and not Holder. These are people who said they support the rights you have and they are to protect under the Second Amendment!
    It seems that the 'days of coming after your gun rights and the 2nd amendment are over' was a lie- or a 'mis-spoken statement' as they like to call it?

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    This Department is serious about firearms offenses,
    And I am VERY serious about our rights.

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    In the end, Congress does not possess constitutional authority to restrict or regulate arms of any kind, and the ATF has no authority to legislate anything. Therefore, this entire fiasco is unconstitutional. Someone needs to say it, so I thought I would.
    100% correct.

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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    Quote Originally Posted by Didnotcomply89 View Post
    If they make these decrees I will be very tempted to bump fire on private land- and it might not necessarily be with a bump stock. I will not comply with illegal decrees, especially from a bureaucracy who thinks it has the 'right' to 'interpret' it's 'vision' of the law.
    I agree and admire your stance.
    However, if thats how you feel why stop at bump stocks?
    Im sure you would agree that the NFA is unconstitutional as well.
    Im not condoning breaking the law, Im just making a point.
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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    Here is a direct link to the comment section. Don't let the NRA and anti assholes win on this.

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    Default Re: ATF Looking to Reclassify Bump Stocks After Approving Them

    https://www.regulations.gov/docketBr...=ATF-2018-0001

    Currently at 32,136 comments... damn, that's pretty impressive.

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