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December 22nd, 2017, 03:39 PM #1
National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
If travel between the states is protected by the Privileges and Immunities clause of the Constitution, whereas one state is not allowed to discriminate against travellers from another state, AND possession of a firearm for self protection has been determined to be an individual right under Heller, why then is concealed carry between the states not protected by the Privileges and Immunities clause?
Sed ego sum homo indomitus
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December 22nd, 2017, 03:56 PM #2
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December 22nd, 2017, 04:05 PM #3
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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December 22nd, 2017, 04:07 PM #4
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
Join the GOA & save $5.00. https://www.gunowners.org/mac-subs-join-goa.htm
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December 22nd, 2017, 04:13 PM #5Grand Member
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Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
Heller specified an individuals right to possess firearms in the home.
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December 23rd, 2017, 04:13 PM #6
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
Gun laws are a mish-mash. From what I gather, SCOTUS wants clear and concise matters that they can consider in triage manner. That may be difficult to conform to in gun cases. On the flip side, some cases are wisely not sent to them because the outcome holds potential for set-back.
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December 23rd, 2017, 04:36 PM #7
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
Letter (in part and paraphrased) from Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick:
As a fellow gun owner and supporter of the Second Amendment, re concealed carry reciprocity....
I am firmly committed to the Second Amendment, have fought over-reach by any federal agency....
....firm belief in the concept of reciprocity....
(verbatim): I look forward to supporting final passage of reciprocity legislation coming back from the Senate. My concerns with the House legislation stemmed from extraneous provisions included in that bill which undermined the goals of a clean reciprocity bill. To that end, I have opened conversations with Senate leadership to advance a solution so Congress continues with the goal of taking our time to seize this opportunity to pass not the quickest, but the most effective, consensus reciprocity measures possible. (end verbatim).
Thank you, et cetera.... (end)
To my read, consensus reciprocity measures means input from all states, leading to compromise...states with 40 hours training comes down to 20, states with no training comes up to 20, and so-on.
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December 23rd, 2017, 04:50 PM #8
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
No need for a lawyer or smartie to answer this one. It's because the rogue territories do not comply with federal law or the Constitution. I hear all the time from people
They can't do that!
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December 23rd, 2017, 10:32 PM #9
Re: National Reciprocity - a question for people smarter than me
...and yet all of this pontificating is a waste of time...If you want the right results go to court. Having the Legislature argue this is just going to end up with more infringements. We need to be fighting this in COURT!
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December 24th, 2017, 08:56 PM #10
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