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December 16th, 2017, 11:33 AM #1Junior Member
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Restoring rights
I have an 18yr old felony conviction. My pardon app is currently sitting on the governors desk awaiting signature. My question being if he signs it what additional will I need to do in order to legally own and posess a firearm? In my younger years i took all of my liberties for granted and I hope to restore all the rights my stupidity took away
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December 16th, 2017, 11:47 AM #2Grand Member
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Re: Restoring rights
Congrats on getting it that far with a felony. My understanding is you need to go through interviews and hearings before it reached the governor. AFAIK you need to expunge your record, with the signed pardon being the required document for a judge to order the record expunged. After that is completed you should be GTG. I presume you have an attorney. If not I would strongly recommend retaining one for the final phase.
Good luck.
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December 16th, 2017, 11:54 AM #3Junior Member
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I have an attorney. The whole process took almost 4 years and cost me $3,000 and was one of the hardest thing I ever had to face.... I wasn't sure if the pardon was enough or if I still needed to expunge.
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December 16th, 2017, 11:58 AM #4
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December 16th, 2017, 12:11 PM #5Junior Member
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I wanted it done right and quickly so hence the 3g.... The lt gov has really streamlined the process as of late so they say they have the public hearing within 3yrs mine took almost 4
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December 16th, 2017, 12:15 PM #6Grand Member
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Re: Restoring rights
Your friend got a pardon signed by the governor with no legal representation or training? I didn't think it was that easy.
If the OP only paid $3000 for a pardon he got by cheap. A good lawyer could cost you $300 an hour. Even at $200 an hour that's only 15 billed hours for a 4 year process. he did good.
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December 16th, 2017, 12:22 PM #7Grand Member
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December 16th, 2017, 12:31 PM #8Junior Member
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Re: Restoring rights
Honestly the lawyer served 3 purposes
Proffesionally filling out the app which he charged me $1400
Prepping for the public hearing (which is most important) which was a $1500 retainer
And appearance purposes ie... Being able to hire an attorney shows the board financial security and stability
Having an experienced pardon attorney to prep for the hearing is crucial. Mine sat beside me and adjusted my statement as he saw the boards reactions to others statements
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December 16th, 2017, 03:38 PM #9
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I know someone who spent over $4K (on attorney) getting his PA driver's license restored back around 1990, which was all paperwork and correspondence. I think $3K today is a very modest charge for representation including personal appearance.
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December 17th, 2017, 01:42 PM #10
Re: Restoring rights
Back to a question the OP had. Even though you got a pardon, IIRC, you will still need to get the conviction expunged from all your records. Even with the pardon, the PICS will probably come back denied if the records aren't expunged. Then you would need to do the challenge form and probably give a copy of the pardon but even that doesn't mean the PSP will wipe your record. You might check into getting a UPIN (Unique Personal Identification Number) and when you buy a firearm, tell the FFL so he can talk directly to a PICs operator to give them that information.
Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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