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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by danhr View Post
    How is that an invasion of privacy?

    A casino wants to set up a "Patriot" one system at their casino. Private property, they can do that if they want. That's their right. They can/should be allowed to not allow firearms/screen for firearms/openly allow firearms at their own place of business at their own discretion.

    If they scan for firearms, and you don't like it, then don't go to the casino.

    those at the Westgate like the fact that it is out of sight, and that it can give them tips on who is armed and not.
    How can you like or not like it if they are scanning you secretly?

    Would it be an invasion of privacy if they were scanning for silicone implants?

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    How can you like or not like it if they are scanning you secretly?

    Would it be an invasion of privacy if they were scanning for silicone implants?
    If it's being done secretly... Yes.. i think that is a violation of privacy.

    My interpretation of saying it's being used "discreetly" is that it is they are/will be scanning so it isn't obtrusive on entering the casino, but still have a sign up saying "by entering the premises, you condone to being scanned."

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    I see an opportunity to create, manufacture, and sell "stealth" technology concealment clothing.

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason O View Post
    I see an opportunity to create, manufacture, and sell "stealth" technology concealment clothing.
    Faraday shirts and pants.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post
    What if a property owners say nobody an wear white socks or blue undearwear while on their property?

    1. Our right to self defense is supreme.
    2. Our right to carry an item (in this case a firearm) that is causing no harm is greater than a property owners desire to ban.
    1. Negative
    2. Negative


    The right to keep and bear arms is based upon property rights. You are a guest on their property, so their rights are supreme. You are not required to go onto their property, and have the choice to go elsewhere.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    If you suspect a place is scanning you like this you have the right to not patronize them and go somewhere else. Of course it's OK for their CEO to carry a firearm for protection and not you. They believe themselves to be above you in importance.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    1. Negative
    2. Negative


    The right to keep and bear arms is based upon property rights. You are a guest on their property, so their rights are supreme. You are not required to go onto their property, and have the choice to go elsewhere.
    It is this kind of thinking that paved the way for the NFA and current abuse by our local, state and federal government.

    Man is nothing but a steward upon this planet and the idea that a "landlord" has absolute dominion upon their property is not absolute.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post
    It is this kind of thinking that paved the way for the NFA and current abuse by our local, state and federal government.

    Man is nothing but a steward upon this planet and the idea that a "landlord" has absolute dominion upon their property is not absolute.
    And a man's home is his castle, and his lands his kingdom.

    Any footstep upon another person's property is trespassing, and this rule is thousands of years older than the existence of firearms. Even Cicero recognized this back in Rome, quid enim sanctius, quid omni religione munitius, quam domus unusquisque civium?

    For that trespass not to be criminal you must have license or privilege. License being a formal agreement, privilege being implied consent upon the basis that you abide by their rules and for a purpose that the landowner agrees upon.

    There are only two types property, public and private. Both of which can have sub-classes allowing for public access under conditions set forth by the property owner. A business is not public property, it is private. For you to not to be criminally trespassing, you must abide by their rules. Your property rights of keeping and bearing do not supersede another person's property rights. You have a right to go elsewhere, they have a right to refuse service or entry.
    RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Do they have warnings on the front doors that they'll be radiating your gonads?
    I am not sure if that warning is in the fine print of my iPhone agreement, in the meantime the phone is in my front pocket, about two inches from said gonads.

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    And a man's home is his castle, and his lands his kingdom.

    Any footstep upon another person's property is trespassing, and this rule is thousands of years older than the existence of firearms. Even Cicero recognized this back in Rome, quid enim sanctius, quid omni religione munitius, quam domus unusquisque civium?

    For that trespass not to be criminal you must have license or privilege. License being a formal agreement, privilege being implied consent upon the basis that you abide by their rules and for a purpose that the landowner agrees upon.

    There are only two types property, public and private. Both of which can have sub-classes allowing for public access under conditions set forth by the property owner. A business is not public property, it is private. For you to not to be criminally trespassing, you must abide by their rules. Your property rights of keeping and bearing do not supersede another person's property rights. You have a right to go elsewhere, they have a right to refuse service or entry.


    You have expressed established law and common decorum. I suspect you may have missed the point of my earlier post.
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