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    Post Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

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    A large casino and hotel near the famous Las Vegas Strip this week began testing a microwave radar device designed to identify weapons discreetly, Wired reported.

    The Westgate Las Vegas Resort and Casino is now trying out the Patscan radar system. Billed as a “covert primary radar screening device and software solution for the detection of on-body concealed weapons at key access points of weapons-restricted buildings and facilities,” those at the Westgate like the fact that it is out of sight, and that it can give them tips on who is armed and not.

    “I believe in people’s right to bear arms,” Mark Waltrip, Westgate Resort’s chief operating officer, says. “I have a concealed carry permit myself. But, you know, on our properties, we want to maintain a safe environment, and we don’t need guests bringing weapons on site. We really don’t want that kind of surprise.”




    Produced by Patriot 1, a Canadian-based security company, the Patscan needs to be within about six feet of the weapon to image it, though they point out that multiple units can be arranged to blanket entry points, reservation desks and exits — areas where visitors are channeled through.

    For now, the Westgate is trialing the Patscan at the resort’s employee entrance for the next several months before making a decision moving forward. The historic resort and casino, known for many years as the Las Vegas Hilton, has over 3,000 rooms and sits astride the Las Vegas Convention Center about a block from the Strip.

    The Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show, an annual event for the firearms industry and mecca for all that is gun has been held in Las Vegas at the Sands Expo and Convention Center every January since 2010, and last year drew a crowd estimated to top 65,000.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post

    “I believe in people’s right to bear arms,” Mark Waltrip, Westgate Resort’s chief operating officer, says. “I have a concealed carry permit myself. But, you know, on our properties, we want to maintain a safe environment, and we don’t need guests bringing weapons on site. We really don’t want that kind of surprise.”
    Umm... So apparently Mr Waltrip makes every place he walks into less safe when he carries? Or is this that thing the liberals in power like to do..."it's fine for us but not for you"?

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    How is that an invasion of privacy?

    A casino wants to set up a "Patriot" one system at their casino. Private property, they can do that if they want. That's their right. They can/should be allowed to not allow firearms/screen for firearms/openly allow firearms at their own place of business at their own discretion.

    If they scan for firearms, and you don't like it, then don't go to the casino.

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Doesn't matter when you own part of the casino.
    I can imagine who owns the company that supplies those machines.

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    New York and NYPD have been testing this secretly on the streets for years.

    I said this in a post a couple years ago when people were arguing with me that the technology to scan you just like in Arnold Schwarzenegger Mars movie didn't exist.

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by danhr View Post
    They can/should be allowed to not allow firearms/screen for firearms/openly allow firearms at their own place of business at their own discretion
    What if a property owners say nobody an wear white socks or blue undearwear while on their property?

    1. Our right to self defense is supreme.
    2. Our right to carry an item (in this case a firearm) that is causing no harm is greater than a property owners desire to ban.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Do they have warnings on the front doors that they'll be radiating your gonads?
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post
    What if a property owners say nobody an wear white socks or blue undearwear while on their property?

    1. Our right to self defense is supreme.
    2. Our right to carry an item (in this case a firearm) that is causing no harm is greater than a property owners desire to ban.
    They can do that.

    It's only the government that put the smack-down on private property rights by enacting protections based on race, disability, sex etc. As long as their rules don't run afoul of discrimination laws, they can set the rules.

    I see it as a game. Property owner doesn't want me to carry a gun, I carry a gun. Do they do anything to actively stop me (more importantly bad guys) from carrying? Do they have force of law on their side so that I can get in legal trouble if they catch me? Are their goods/services unique to them or can I go down the road and obtain what I need hassle free? It's why I joined Sam's and left Costco. One policy is more friendly and the merchandise is similar enough. Before Sam's opened, I ignored Costco policy and carried.
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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post
    What if a property owners say nobody an wear white socks or blue undearwear while on their property?

    1. Our right to self defense is supreme.
    2. Our right to carry an item (in this case a firearm) that is causing no harm is greater than a property owners desire to ban.
    Then you probably shouldn't wear white socks or blue underwear on their property.

    As long as the casino puts a sign up saying they are going to shoot cancer causing beams at your gonads, then I see nothing wrong with it.

    If you don't like it, go to another casino..... Unless your right to go to any casino you want, however you want, wearing whatever you want, is another supreme right?

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    Default Re: Invasion of privacy? Vegas resort testing gun-searching radar devices (VIDEO)

    Quote Originally Posted by danhr View Post
    Then you probably shouldn't wear white socks or blue underwear on their property.

    As long as the casino puts a sign up saying they are going to shoot cancer causing beams at your gonads, then I see nothing wrong with it.

    If you don't like it, go to another casino..... Unless your right to go to any casino you want, however you want, wearing whatever you want, is another supreme right?
    Actually, they should have a big flashing warning when you book a room online telling you that they'll be sterilizing you while you check in.
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