CMP 1911 purchase requirements!

[Bang]

I think you need to re-read it.

[tacogewehr]

Bummed they won't ship to C&Rs, but whatever. I'll throw my name in the hat for one when the time comes, but with my luck my number will get pulled and all they'll have left is some deluxe grade that'll probably be $2500.

[mpan72]

They should be given away for free through a lottery. You would have to qualify by proving that you pay some sort of federal taxes. I would also be o.k. with some other qualifiers like what already exists for the long guns.

[Bang]

I think I would consider just buying from a 1911/1911A1 dealer. They are expensive, but you can see what you are getting or can walk away. CMP prices may drive private prices up even more.

[Emptymag]

Do they have any revolvers?

I hear those are becoming popular.

[RockIsland]

CMP WON'T BE 'PRICE GOUGING' FOLKS FOR 1911's

CMP Further Clarifies the Plan for Selling 1911s
by S.H. BLANNELBERRY on DECEMBER 12, 2017
Related Tags: 1911, Buzz, CMP, Industry News, Pistol


Editor’s note: This just in, a clarified version of the CMP’s plan to surplus 1911s. Of particular interest to me is the note regarding the price. CMP said it won’t be “price gouging” folks and that the 1911s will be offered at “fair market value.” As noted in a prior GunsAmerica article, CMP said it would be selling them at “around $1,000 minimum.” My question for you: is $1,000 fair market value?

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions further clarified updated 12/12/2017:

CMP will have an all-new 1911 order form, 1911 purchasing instructions, a 1911 page on our web site, a dedicated 1911 FFL fax number and email address for the FFL holder to send their FFL with customer’s name attached.

The customer will have to send in a complete new order packet with all new qualifying criteria included. Everyone will be a new customer, everyone starts with no advantage or disadvantage. CMP 1911 is an FFL governed operation and is a separate entity from CMP and has to have its own record keeping operation with no ties to the old CMP records.

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. CMP will price at fair market value in accordance with CMP’s enabling legislation.

Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01, 02, 07 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to. These are “store front” FFLs.

A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the “store front” FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a “proceed” from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer.

The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check, in which the information is provided by the FFL holder to NICS, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer.

Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.

No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales. All 1911 orders will come in via USPS, UPS, Fed EX, etc.

CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.

Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex, etc.

Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.

Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.

When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one 1911 type pistol.

As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grades and pricing options will be available.
Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a “store front” FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one the information provided by CMP to NICS and the second the information will be provided to NICS by the FFL dealer in which the pistol is shipped.

Ordering Information: CMP will have an all-new 1911 order form, 1911 purchasing instructions, a 1911 page on our web site, a dedicated 1911 FFL fax number and email address for the FFL holder to send their FFL with customer name attached. The customer will have to send in a complete new order packet with all new qualifying criteria included. Everyone will be a new customer, everyone starts with no advantage or disadvantage. CMP 1911 is an FFL governed operation and is a separate entity from CMP and has to have its own record keeping operation with no ties to the old CMP records.

Concerning sale price of the 1911s: CMP has been selling M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, 1903s, .22s, etc. for 21+ years and we have never taken advantage of anyone. CMP is not going to start price gouging people now with the 1911s. The 1911s will be priced at fair market value just like our M1 Garands. The CMP’s enabling legislation directs sales of items at fair market value.


Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org

[Noah_Zark]

Mike Johnson forgot to mention the part about doing the Hokey Pokey and turning yourself around . . .

Noah

[39flathead]

The current fair market value is not going to be the same once 10,000 units become available onto the market will it?

[WCMG]

"shipping it to the local 01, 02, or 07 FFL dealer."

Another organization that doesn't understand the different types of FFL's. FFL types 01, 02, 07, 08, 09, 10, and 11 can all deal in firearms and run NIC checks.

Pic from RocketFFL since the ATF info page is about as clear as dirt.

FFLTypes.jpg

[thebearpack]

"shipping it to the local 01, 02, or 07 FFL dealer."

Another organization that doesn't understand the different types of FFL's. FFL types 01, 02, 07, 08, 09, 10, and 11 can all deal in firearms and run NIC checks.

Nothing to do with the CMP. The requirement is in the NDAA so your issue is with Congress.