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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Exact wording of the most recent 4473 download;

    "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

    Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
    decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside."

    Put on your Bill Clinton hat and decide what a user is. If you smoked one joint 10 years ago and were not caught, does that make you a "user"?
    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    There is a place like that, but William Penn made sure to put a river between us and New Jersey, to keep out those hoplophobic riffraff.
    There is NO evidence of widespread journalistic integrity.

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by olderguy View Post
    Exact wording of the most recent 4473 download;

    "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

    Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
    decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside."

    Put on your Bill Clinton hat and decide what a user is. If you smoked one joint 10 years ago and were not caught, does that make you a "user"?
    Innocent until proven guilty comes to mind

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by olderguy View Post
    Exact wording of the most recent 4473 download;

    "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

    Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
    decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside."

    Put on your Bill Clinton hat and decide what a user is. If you smoked one joint 10 years ago and were not caught, does that make you a "user"?
    It also says " addicted to or any depressant, stimulant,"
    Wouldnt that include alcohol? Seems like a lot of alcoholics would be barred from that line.
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    It also says " addicted to or any depressant, stimulant,"
    Wouldnt that include alcohol? Seems like a lot of alcoholics would be barred from that line.
    I see that as unlawful use of any of the following... Otherwise anyone on any type of prescription medication or even any type of stimulant such as caffeine such as a cup of coffee would be restricted. And as my doctor would/has said there's a difference between addicted and needed.

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    I see that as unlawful use of any of the following... Otherwise anyone on any type of prescription medication or even any type of stimulant such as caffeine such as a cup of coffee would be restricted. And as my doctor would/has said there's a difference between addicted and needed.
    I messed up when i cut and pasted the text.
    It says :"unlawful or addicted to or any depressant, stimulant"
    Seems like a separate thing.
    Either way its a poorly written piece of law. IMO
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    I messed up when i cut and pasted the text.
    It says :"unlawful or addicted to or any depressant, stimulant"
    Seems like a separate thing.
    Either way its a poorly written piece of law. IMO
    I understood what ya meant and wasnt attempting to hold you to what was bolded or not. If written in the context of OR, it would include all prescription drugs as well as over the counter medications, supplements and even stimulants such as coffee or any food with sugar

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySoldier View Post
    I understood what ya meant and wasnt attempting to hold you to what was bolded or not. If written in the context of OR, it would include all prescription drugs as well as over the counter medications, supplements and even stimulants such as coffee or any food with sugar
    Thats cool.
    Ive been up all night, so Im surprised im not typing gibberish lol
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    I messed up when i cut and pasted the text.
    It says :"unlawful or addicted to or any depressant, stimulant"
    Seems like a separate thing.
    Either way its a poorly written piece of law. IMO
    That's exactly the way "they" want it written. That way they get to pick and choose what it means and who to enforce it against.
    Don't think for a second that the federal government can't come up with easily read and understsood laws.
    There is a passage in Atlas shrugged where Hank Reardon is before the council and the chairman says something to the effect that what good is an honest man, there is no value in someone you can't leverage. Just ask Randy Weaver about short barrel shotguns and entrapment.
    Go sell crazy some where else, we're all stocked up here.


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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by pacodelahoya View Post
    That's exactly the way "they" want it written. That way they get to pick and choose what it means and who to enforce it against.
    Don't think for a second that the federal government can't come up with easily read and understsood laws.
    There is a passage in Atlas shrugged where Hank Reardon is before the council and the chairman says something to the effect that what good is an honest man, there is no value in someone you can't leverage. Just ask Randy Weaver about short barrel shotguns and entrapment.
    So true!
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Your choice in PA: 2A or medical marijuana

    You'll have to pry their doobie from their cold, stoned hands.

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