Vehicle Stop and detention by LEO due to inability to verify serial number

**Ricochet** · December 7th, 2017, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

Not tied to vehicle registration.

What about drivers license?

**Carson** · December 8th, 2017, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ricochet

What about drivers license?

If I run you just for a DL, no LTCF info shows up. It is a separate data base. Some departments are set up that your info is run through a few databases automatically. Such as BMV, NCIC, PCIC, etc. But as far as I know, in PA, your DL is not linked to your LTCF.

**Ricochet** · December 8th, 2017, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Carson

If I run you just for a DL, no LTCF info shows up. It is a separate data base. Some departments are set up that your info is run through a few databases automatically. Such as BMV, NCIC, PCIC, etc. But as far as I know, in PA, your DL is not linked to your LTCF.

Thanks.

**Royinmontco** · December 8th, 2017, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Carson

If I run you just for a DL, no LTCF info shows up. It is a separate data base. Some departments are set up that your info is run through a few databases automatically. Such as BMV, NCIC, PCIC, etc. But as far as I know, in PA, your DL is not linked to your LTCF.

We've already learned that this is in fact happening in several pa counties. There are plenty of threads confirming it.

**PhillySoldier** · December 8th, 2017, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Royinmontco

We've already learned that this is in fact happening in several pa counties. There are plenty of threads confirming it.

I can confirm for myself it has already happened in PA

as well as knowing others that have had it occur in NJ.

**IIIIIREPOIIIII** · December 8th, 2017, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Carson

If I run you just for a DL, no LTCF info shows up. It is a separate data base. Some departments are set up that your info is run through a few databases automatically. Such as BMV, NCIC, PCIC, etc. But as far as I know, in PA, your DL is not linked to your LTCF.

Deja vu we've had this argument long time ago

**The Unknown 1087** · December 8th, 2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Royinmontco

We've already learned that this is in fact happening in several pa counties. There are plenty of threads confirming it.

Same, can confirm both Lancaster and chester.

**DennisH82** · December 8th, 2017, 12:09 PM

Anyone driving a vehicle with no pro gun or other attention getting stickers on your vehicle it or no obvious LTC near your DL when you get pulled over when the officer asks you are you carrying your firearm today SIR/Ma'am will know if they are aware of your LTCF. a few friends of mine who are LEO's tell me that most questioning is just fishing for other violations. Many folks can't close their mouths and volunteer all sorts of things. If you meet other criteria for a closer look then you get the full service show. Being a dick never works out well, In the very few instances I have been pulled over I am respectful and brief, there is a fine line between bending over on your rights and going out of your way antagonizing a LEO. I once had a LEO in MD give me some major attitude and I kept on responding yes officer, no officer while he spun up into full anger mode. He eventually gave up and gave me my ticket and I moved on. I had not put my recent insurance card in my holder yet, MY FAULT.