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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Reciprocity This Week! Call Now!

    Some newly sent information from the GOA's perspective which I happen to agree with.

    This is the big week.

    It looks like at long last, the House will finally vote on a concealed carry reciprocity bill, H.R. 38, which includes protections for residents of Constitutional Carry states.

    The expected vote could come Wednesday or Thursday.

    If the Constitutional Carry reciprocity bill passes the House, it will be a momentous occasion.

    The House has passed reciprocity bills in the past -- but they’ve never had a protection for Constitutional Carry states, which is something that GOA has been insisting upon.

    Rep. Richard Hudson is the author of the Constitutional Carry reciprocity bill, H.R. 38. In an article that is posted on GOA’s website, he said that:

    "Currently, the hodgepodge of concealed carry reciprocity laws and agreements between states is confusing, causing some law-abiding concealed carry permit holders to innocently and unknowingly break the law and suffer arrest, while preventing others from carrying over state lines at all. My bill is a simple, common sense solution -- it will affirm that law-abiding citizens who are qualified to carry concealed firearms in one state can also carry in other states that allow residents to do so.

    "This is a simple application of Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution requiring that states give 'full faith and credit' to the 'public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state.'"

    We couldn’t agree more.

    And that’s why we need you to contact your Congressman and urge them to vote for H.R. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity bill.
    GOA Stands Firm in Opposition to Gun Control

    Now, for another matter.

    For a couple of weeks following the Sutherland Springs shooting, it seemed that Congress was going to pass an anti-gun “Fix NICS” bill before getting to any pro-gun legislation.

    If you are wondering why there is so much impetus to pass the Fix NICS gun control bill, here’s why:

    "Everyone loves [the Fix NICS] bill. The NRA and the NSSF jumped on board; ditto Gabby Giffords and Everytown-Moms. Well, almost everyone. The group which claims it’s the only group standing between freedom and fascism, a.k.a. Gun Owners of America, told its members to demand that we stop trying to 'fix an unconstitutional system' because background checks of any kind are an 'infringement on 2nd-Amendment rights.'" -- Huffington Post, November 20, 2017

    Almost everyone in Washington supports “Fix NICS” as a way of “doing something” to stop the type of shootings we’ve seen recently.

    Of course, it won’t stop shootings like that.

    But now, it is very possible that the House will combine the “Fix NICS” legislation with the reciprocity bill.

    Ultimately, Gun Owners of America prefers that Congress send a clean reciprocity bill to the President.

    But if the House combines the two bills together, one of two things will happen.

    First, combining the two bills could end up killing the Fix NICS legislation. As a stand-alone bill, because of the support of the NRA and many in the House leadership, Fix NICS has enough votes to pass VERY EASILY in the House and Senate.

    But it is very likely that Democrats would oppose a combined bill and filibuster it in the Senate. For this reason, prominent Senate Republicans and Democrats oppose combining the two bills -- because they don’t want to kill the Fix NICS legislation.

    Second, there is the slight possibility that combining the two bills will help concealed reciprocity go to the President’s desk.

    As the situation stands now, Senate Democrats have enough votes to filibuster and kill reciprocity. But a combined bill might encourage some Red State Democrats to break from Schumer and vote “aye” on the bill.

    Regardless of what happens, GOA’s message to Capitol Hill remains the same -- we want concealed carry reciprocity; we don’t want more gun control.

    Thank you for taking action.

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    I'm really interested in the odds that this gets passed by the Senate. Apparently it needs 60 votes in the Senate (why not the 52 majority needed to pass tax reform?). Could we really get 8 Democrat Senators to vote yes on this? This is assuming that all the Republican Senators vote yes.

    Maybe they could attach some other bill that the dems really want. Also, some of those dems are up for re-election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American1776 View Post
    I'm really interested in the odds that this gets passed by the Senate. Apparently it needs 60 votes in the Senate (why not the 52 majority needed to pass tax reform?). Could we really get 8 Democrat Senators to vote yes on this? This is assuming that all the Republican Senators vote yes.

    Maybe they could attach some other bill that the dems really want. Also, some of those dems are up for re-election.
    As stated in the post above yours.

    The FIX NICS bill will most likely be attached which is a bad thing for gun owners however it's supported by the majority of Republicans, The Dems as well as the NRA so it might bring a few over however there will be attempts by both sides to remove one or the other which may kill them both individually but realistically if they were removed and only one were to pass I would bet it's the FIX NICS in which case we loose big time.

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    Per the MAC the HR38 is going to be merged with HR4477 (fix nics) tomorrow which will most likely kill both bills dead just like the majority of both parties wanted.

    Here's the link to MAC Facebook post.
    https://www.facebook.com/militaryarm...buq6hE&fref=nf

    There's also a few new videos hitting the interwebs now.



    Last edited by Hodgie; December 4th, 2017 at 08:24 PM.

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    From the GOA newsletter.

    As the situation stands now, Senate Democrats have enough votes to filibuster and kill reciprocity.

    So are we just jerking off?

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    i wonder how many would be arrested for a carry rally on the doorsteps of the politicians.

    explains why the committee sat for so long on the bill, although goodlatte made some very pro constitution arguments during the markup.
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    From the GOA newsletter.




    So are we just jerking off?
    I think the hope is, that by attaching the 'fix nix' bill, enough red-state dems up for re-election next year will vote 'yes' for the whole she-bang. It's seems like the only way they can get the Senate to pass Reciprocity. Alone, it won't get 60.

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    well, fix nics isn't up for vote, so we're thinking house will link hr.38 and nics together before vote tomorrow?
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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    https://www.c-span.org/video/?438152...aled-carry-gun

    tomorrow it's up for "one minute speech"

    NRA is strongly supporting the fix nics. i don't know much about it still. ideally they'd repeal the NFA, hughes, nics and all infringements.
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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    Default Re: Concealed Carry Reciprocity This Week! Call Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?438152...aled-carry-gun

    tomorrow it's up for "one minute speech"

    NRA is strongly supporting the fix nics. i don't know much about it still. ideally they'd repeal the NFA, hughes, nics and all infringements.
    The NRA is truly a wolf in a pro 2A sheeps clothing.

    You can even see Ted Nugent a board member going nuts like he always does on NICS as well as the NRA involvement in it last week on Steven Crowders youtube channel.


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