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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    It was his firearm. He is ultimately responsible. The story he asked Mom to secure it is as believable as their original denial.
    Suppose someone breaks into his house and steals it - and then shoots the neighbor kid. Do you still think he is responsible, since it was his gun?

    Mom doesn't look very responsible.
    Is that because she is ugly, black or looks like a man?
    Last edited by free; November 27th, 2017 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Suppose someone breaks into his house and steals it - and then shoots the neighbor kid. Do you still think he is responsible, since it was his gun?
    I don't think it is about the item that cause the harm but the circumstances around it. To answer your question even though I know it was asked of abner13. No.
    Some people just plain suck.
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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    I suppose if you did something that precipitated your child getting hurt, yes. Depends on the context.

    If you left your sawzall out on the kitchen table because you were in a hurry and told your mom to watch kiddo and kiddo cuts his finger off with the sawzall. Maybe. Maybe it is a stretch.
    Every home should have a sawzall on the kitchen table (LOADED)

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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    Whether leaving the gun with the grandmother is enough to negligate his negligence is what would be determined at a possible trial or by the DA.
    I would think that would be ok as long as shes not psychotic and is legal to own a firearm.

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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    A parent supervising the welfare of a child under 18, or a person that supervises such a person, commits an offense if he knowingly endangers the welfare of the child by violating a duty of care, protection or support.

    Also:
    A person commits an M-2 if he recklessly engages in conduct which places another person in danger of death or SBI.

    We will see if the courts agree that he violated the above statutes by him giving his mother his loaded firearm to safely store while he quickly ran out because he was late for work.
    I would expect some kind of plea, which will still leave the question unanswered.
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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Suppose someone breaks into his house and steals it - and then shoots the neighbor kid. Do you still think he is responsible, since it was his gun?

    Is that because she is ugly, black or looks like a man?
    For me it's A and C. But I have to admit that I think that most ugly black women are uglier than ugly white women.
    Where's Hunter?

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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    Suppose someone breaks into his house and steals it - and then shoots the neighbor kid. Do you still think he is responsible, since it was his gun?
    Well , that's clearly not the situation here.


    Is that because she is ugly, black or looks like a man?
    Always gotta toss in the race card , don't ya?
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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    I would think that would be ok as long as shes not psychotic and is legal to own a firearm.
    I think other factors could enter into it as well. I do agree with you on the grandmother baring most of the blame but there are variables that could lead to the fathers arrest. The details of this specific incident could go a long way towards figuring out who should be held accountable.
    Some people just plain suck.
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    Default Re: 3yr old shoots self.

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    Well , that's clearly not the situation here.

    Always gotta toss in the race card , don't ya?
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