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    Default Re: Dems introduce Assault Weapons Ban of 2017 Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    The Assault weapon bill of the 90s did not allow 3 features. It only allowed one. Most manufacturers kept the pistol grip and did away with the folding/collapsible stock, bayonet lug, and flash suppressor. The flash suppressors were modified into recoil compensators. On some rifles thumb loop stocks were used because they did not count as a evil feature. The new bans that were enacted in NY and other states don’t allow any features including thumb loop stocks and recoil compensators. This is why you see the NY compliant ARs with the stocks looking like it was made by a plumber and a plain barrel with nothing on the end.
    Here is a summarization Senator Frankenstein’s latest creation:
    Key provisions
    • Bans the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 205 military-style assault weapons by name. Owners may keep existing weapons.
    • Bans any assault weapon that accepts a detachable ammunition magazine and has one or more military characteristics including a pistol grip, a forward grip, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel or a folding or telescoping stock. Owners may keep existing weapons.
    • Bans magazines and other ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, which allow shooters to quickly fire many rounds without needing to reload. Owners may keep existing magazines.
    Exemptions to bill
    • The bill exempts by name more than 2,200 guns for hunting, household defense or recreational purposes.
    • The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
    Other provisions:
    • Requires a background check on any future sale, trade or gifting of an assault weapon covered by the bill.
    • Requires that grandfathered assault weapons are stored using a secure gun storage or safety device like a trigger lock.
    Prohibits the transfer of high-capacity ammunition magazines.
    • Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.
    However there is some good news if you want to call it that, it doesn’t seem to ban thumb loop stocks. At least I couldn’t find it listed as an evil feature in the bill.
    https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...-bill-text.pdf

    Thanks for clarifying. So other than a fixed buttstock, the new ban essentially allows zero current/important AR-15 features if the rifle accepts a detachable magazine. ie no pistol grip, no quad rail /handguard

    It appears that under the new proposed law, quad rails/ hand guards would have to be modified so that they don't completely encircle the barrel and the rest of the rifle would have to be like those freaky NY compliant one's we've seen.

    I suspect that if the ATF interprets a thumbhole stock to have a pistol grip, then it too would be banned under the legislation.

    Is the above language also in the bill? If so, it seems to me that the list of banned characteristics listed is not all inclusive, but open to interpretation over whether they are "military" or not, based on the use of the word "including"
    Last edited by TSimonetti; November 10th, 2017 at 12:20 PM.

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