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    Default Re: Philadelphia Police Officers and LTCF Philadelphia PD Directive 5.27

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Kahuna 19547 View Post
    LEOSA refers to the term qualified LE Officer as someone from a governmental agency. ...
    ... I am still trying to understand the PA Constable ruling under LEOSA.
    Because Constables have "Statutory Powers of Arrest Authority" but no booking number... A Constable can arrest you, but cannot book you into jail

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    926B - Qualified Actively Serving

    •Is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law.
    •Has statutory powers of arrest or authority to apprehend pursuant to section 807(b) of Title 10, United States Code (also known as Article 7(b) of the UCMJ).
    •Is authorized by the organization to carry a firearm.
    •Is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the organization that could result in suspension or loss of police powers.
    •Meets the organization's standards, if any, which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm of the same type (e.g., revolver or semiautomatic pistol) as the concealed firearm
    •Is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance.
    •Is not prohibited by federal law from receiving a firearm.





    926C - Qualified Retired and Separated

    •Be separated in good standing from service with the DoD component as a law enforcement officer.
    •Before separation, have been authorized to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution, or the incarceration of any person for any violation of law.
    •Before separation had statutory powers of arrest or authority to apprehend pursuant to section 807(b) of Title 10, United States Code (also known as Article 7(b) of the UCMJ).
    •Before separation, or retraining into a new career field (without apprehension authority), served as a law enforcement officer, or separated from service with the DoD component after completing any applicable period of service, due to a service-connected disability, as determined by that component
    •To carry concealed, during the most recent 12-month period, (1) met the State's standards for training and qualification to carry a firearm for active law enforcement officers in that state for the same type of weapon as the concealed, (2) qualify using the States LEOSA firearms qualification course, or (3) if the State has not established law enforcement officer firearms qualification standard the instructor will certify the officer has completed the DoD Component handgun qualification course conducted by a state certified civilian firearms instructor using the member's privately owned firearm and personally procured ammunition.
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    Default Re: Philadelphia Police Officers and LTCF Philadelphia PD Directive 5.27

    something seriously wrong with that directive.
    If an officer is suspended pending investigation LEOSA no longer applies! So they cannot carry to protect themselves and their family.

    Wonder how many officers will see through the bullshit and move to another agency?
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    Default Re: Philadelphia Police Officers and LTCF Philadelphia PD Directive 5.27

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    something seriously wrong with that directive.
    If an officer is suspended pending investigation LEOSA no longer applies! So they cannot carry to protect themselves and their family.
    I believe I brought that up in post #14.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    Wonder how many officers will see through the bullshit and move to another agency?
    That, too...

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