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  1. #71
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    Default Re: Carrying permit card?

    Some people make a copy and leave the card at home. I think if stopped you may get an understanding officer but I would not bet on it. I carry mine at all times just to avoid potential bullshit.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Why do we need to continue having the same discussion we've been having in the other existing (and current) thread on the exact same topic?
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by punxsutawneypete View Post
    I make sure that my LTCF is on me at all times. It's that "time of arrest or preliminary hearing" that I want to avoid.
    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Bottom line, just have it with you to avoid any jams.
    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    Some people make a copy and leave the card at home. I think if stopped you may get an understanding officer but I would not bet on it. I carry mine at all times just to avoid potential bullshit.
    I'm a responsible gun owner officer, really. I'm just not responsible enough to have my LTCF with me. Or my driver's license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    I'm a responsible gun owner officer, really. I'm just not responsible enough to have my LTCF with me. Or my driver's license.
    Haha!

    I guess one's amount of responsibility depends on who is grading it.

    For reason's I don't need to explain to anyone here, I've found myself out and about without either one on a few occasions.
    It wasn't intentional, but it happens.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Haha!

    I guess one's amount of responsibility depends on who is grading it.

    For reason's I don't need to explain to anyone here, I've found myself out and about without either one on a few occasions.
    It wasn't intentional, but it happens.
    Geez, I hope you don't find yourself in Jersey without your LTCF.
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    Cause white people are awesome. Happy now......LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    Geez, I hope you don't find yourself in Jersey without your LTCF.
    Nothing to worry about.
    I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by esh21167 View Post
    I'm a responsible gun owner officer, really. I'm just not responsible enough to have my LTCF with me. Or my driver's license.
    There are legitimate reasons to not carry the actual ltcf with you at all times.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat Gun Owner View Post
    My apologies for not being clearer. I do not believe you can give partial consent to a vehicle search. Thus, is allowing a police officer to look at a photo of your LTCF or auto insurance giving consent for him/her to search your entire phone? You can't give partial vehicle consent as I sardonically mentioned in my other post. Thus, why would one assume you can give consent to look at only one picture on your phone?
    With the advances in technology come new issues. Our procedure right now is that if we believe evidence can be found on a cell phone and we have probable cause, the phone will be confiscated and a search warrant obtained before anything is done to the phone.

    If a person gives an officer a phone to show a pic of a DL and the next pic over is something incriminating, that would probably become more of an issue for the person as compared to the incriminating pic being a hundred photos over or in another file.

    I have an Allstate App on my phone that will display only ID cards and if one is so inclined there are photo apps that are passcode protected.

    The first issue that came up with using cellphones in this manner was one of the phone being dropped and broken. If I remember correctly that was covered in the MVC.

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    Default Re: Carry Permit With You

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post

    Recently I was investigated for a security clearance. There were several documents which she demanded to see including my passport. I was not expected to have these documents on my person, but was given a reasonable time in which to obtain them.

    Sure officer, you can see my LTCF, I keep it in my burn box with all of my official government documents, since keeping them in my wallet would be irresponsible, especially since there is no legal means for a replacement LTCF to be issued. DO you want to follow me to my babysitters and then home, or just meet me there in an hour or so.
    Getting a security clearance is usually not an everyday occurance, so one wouldn’t be expected to carry all of that documentation everyday.

    And if a ride was needed to clear up your LTCF issue, it would probably be in the rear of my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post

    And if a ride was needed to clear up your LTCF issue, it would probably be in the rear of my car.
    But can't you view LTCF information on the computer in your car or calling it into dispatch? What's the point of having that information accessible if cops aren't going to use it?
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