questions on .223 for deer

**Badger Tuff** · November 10th, 2017, 08:29 PM

What if you put a muzzle brake on your .308 and a good recoil pad. Also if you you reload you could get that recoil down pretty good and still shoot a .30 cal. bullet. I'm not opposed to a 223 with a good bullet but a .30 cal. bullet is better. In that 223, a 62 gr. Fusion bullet should be good as would a 60 gr Barnes bullet or a Nosler 60gr. partition bullet.

**raxar** · November 11th, 2017, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by mosseater

I know the figure varies with twist rate and caliber, but losing 5-10 fps/inch doesn't seem very extreme. At worst, prolly 50 fps total from 20 to 16. I haven't chronoed anything, but have seen many reports of speed loss per inch. Can't imagine at 100 yds or less it's going to make any practical difference.

The difference between a 20" barreled AR and a 16" barreled AR is the ability to penetrate steel plate armor, that seems a significant enough velocity difference to me.

**Emptymag** · November 11th, 2017, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Badger Tuff

What if you put a muzzle brake on your .308 and a good recoil pad. Also if you you reload you could get that recoil down pretty good and still shoot a .30 cal. bullet. I'm not opposed to a 223 with a good bullet but a .30 cal. bullet is better. In that 223, a 62 gr. Fusion bullet should be good as would a 60 gr Barnes bullet or a Nosler 60gr. partition bullet.

I finally learned what a muzzle brake can do for recoil and muzzle climb when I put one on two different rifles last year. (one a 7.62x39 AR15)
What an amazing difference. I was so impressed, I bought a third for another rifle.