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  1. #21
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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Good info from everyone above me EXCEPT, the guy directly above me. Find someone who hunts, and someone else who hunts, tag along if possible. Don't pay anyone to learn how to hunt. Didn't even know that was possible. Hell, give me a grand and I'll show you how it's done!

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Quote Originally Posted by 9x23 View Post
    Good info from everyone above me EXCEPT, the guy directly above me. Find someone who hunts, and someone else who hunts, tag along if possible. Don't pay anyone to learn how to hunt. Didn't even know that was possible. Hell, give me a grand and I'll show you how it's done!
    Those two statements seem contradictory.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Not all of us come from hunting families, but that doesn't mean that our kids have to say the same. I didn't start hunting until I was about 28. Didn't actually shoot at a deer until around 35. I most hunted waterfowl before that.

    If you are looking for a good source to read before you go out, get this book. https://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Cook.../dp/086573108X
    This is a fabulous resource, as are most of the other books in the series on muzzleloading, archery, bear hunting, etc. I have many.

    But the most important thing that you can do to learn how to hunt is to simply go hunting. Overcome the inertia to sit on the couch. Push the envelope of your limits of comfort, both physically and mentally. And I would recommend against watching too many videos on youtube and I would vociferously shout to stay far away from TV hunting shows. They are nothing but paid endorsements for whatever is being marketed and they will only make you be unsatisfied with what you are doing no matter how well you are actually doing.

    TV hunting shows are the hunting equivalent of hard core pornography. It provides you with an unrealistic look at things that you will most likely NEVER, EVER be able to achieve, always leaving you let down with your performance. It is toxic and should be avaoided.

    The statement above about hunting being like woodsmanship in that it takes being in the field to learn is dead on! My recommendation is not to spend a damn dime for the first two years on anything except maybe an inexpensive set of rain gear and a foam seat cushion. Wear earth tone clothes if you have them, make sure you wear the appropriate amount of Flo-orange. But try to break up your pattern. Deer are color blind. A red plaid flannel breaks up sillhouette just as good as $500 camouflage. I wore my Carhartt brown duck bibs a brown wool sweater, and a forest green down jacket for years before I bought camo. I've since gone back to it.

    Use what you have to start. If you can learn to move quietly, not fidget and hunt the breeze, you won't need to piss away money on cover scents and expensive gear that you realize that you don't like. Find out what you do like first, THEN buy it. Also, avoid using natural deer products like doe urine, etc. There is very strong evidence suggesting that they play a role in the spread of the prions that cause Chronic Wasting Disease.

    Even if you go out and you don't see anything other than other hunters you still are learning. Now you know hunting patterns for that location on that day. The next time you go out, if no one is at the same spot, check out where other hunters located themselves and try to see what attracted them there. Keep a journal. Write down two things that you learned each day. You will forget them by next year.

    But get out. Even if it is raining. Get out. Even if your bed is nice and warm. Get out. Even if you o ly have tso hours before you nave to run the kids to some function. Get out.

    Objects at rest tend to stay at rest (unless acted upon by an outside source).
    Objects in motion tend to stay in motion.

    Be your own catalyst.
    "How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessnes."

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Quote Originally Posted by 9x23 View Post
    Good info from everyone above me EXCEPT, the guy directly above me....Don't pay anyone to learn how to hunt.
    What exactly is your objection to paying for training?

    Didn't even know that was possible.
    You can get anything for the right price.

    Hell, give me a grand and I'll show you how it's done!
    See?

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Quote Originally Posted by free View Post
    What exactly is your objection to paying for training?

    You can get anything for the right price.

    See?
    And how many hours of training does it take ??? or could one get for say the 500 bucks you stated ? Sure I can take anyone out in an area I'm familiar with put them in a spot and say shoot straight when you see a deer . That would just make that person a killer of an animal Not a hunter. There IS quite a difference .your answer basiclly hire a guide , You give bad advice .
    Last edited by Tim Ault; October 29th, 2017 at 11:12 PM.

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    My friends and I just jumped into it. I had taken a safety course as a youth but never hunted as things just did not work out. They took the course and we bought our licenses. We have only harvested one squirrel in about three full years of hunting but we are getting better at it and should have a better year this time around. If you want to hunt with us we would welcome you but you would have to make your way down our neck of the woods because that is all we know at this time.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    As I remember Kerper's in Bowmansville has a large archery section. If you think you might like to try it stop by and talk to those folks. It may be the beginning of a interesting journey.
    Illegitimus non carborundum est

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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Well, since Christmas is coming up, I want to get something to use to hunt during bow season. I think with the amount of time I can dedicate to learning a system, I may be best suited for a crossbow.

    I was thinking of the Parker Thunderhawk. It seems nice, middle of the road, good brand. Local sporting goods (Laucks in Myerstown) has it at $599 that comes with some additional stuff (cocker, lube, and most importantly instructions for use and care). I know I can get it cheaper, but I think they will get me set up and safe so I can practice and learn. Plus I think there are some other add-ons, small stuff, but to me being a newbie, someone to go over all it's features is way more worth the estra $100 or so that I could get it for online. Thoughts one my lack of cheapness on this?

    Anyone with thoughts on this crossbow?
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    Default Re: How Does Hunting Survive?

    Well, I didn't buy the crossbow but looking for one so I can start. Still working on a hunting buddy. I keep talking about it, someone will surface somehow. ;-)

    This time next year I'll be telling you about the 10 pointer I got 1st try ha ha!
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